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Old 02-12-2007, 06:36 PM   #49
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Re: All Pro Football to outsell Madden?

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For the upcoming releases of All Pro Football & Madden on the Xbox 360
and PS3, I believe APF will outsell EA Sport’s perennial powerhouse. Now
I am not talking about the overall sales across all platforms but just
focusing in on the 360 & PS3. Marketing aside, NFL authenticity aside,
I predict the gaming public will embrace an enjoyable sporting game
that has the wow factor of Next Generation Video Gaming. I have no
data regarding the head to head sales of NFL2K5 vs. Madden 2005
on the Xbox platform (forget about the PS2), I do know that 2K’s
sold well, really well, even if part of the overall sales was down to
ticket price. At any rate, just a prediction. On a side note I think
Madden 2008 for the Wii will be a massive seller. Owning both a 360
and now a Wii, I am disappointed to learn that 2K Sports doesn’t
have any foreseeable releases planned for the Wii. With Nintendo’s
system giving a tired Madden franchise a bit of extra step in it’s
legs, one can only imagine the upsides to a 2K-Wii collaboration.
Getting 1/4 of the madden market who be a huge step. I just want a large enough sim style community and Im set.
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:37 PM   #50
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Owning the exclusive NFL license is a huge marketing advantage which is why EA was willing to shell out millions of dollars for it. 2K Sports won't be able to compete on a level playing field with Madden until they get the NFL license back.

I know that a lot of people here are disappointed in next gen Madden so far (myself included) but there's no chance that APF will outsell Madden and there's not even a guarantee that it will be a better game.

I totally disagree with you. If the NFL license was the main reason, madden would sale more. When madden didn't have the NFL license on N64, it still sold millions.

2ksports doesn't need the license to outsell them, they need great advertising, and an eye opener for newcomers.

Espn 2k5 wasn't great to everyone because of the NFL logos and the License.

2k5 was great because of its outstanding gameplay and presentation. Great franchise options and editing abilities. Halftime highlights and nightly wrap ups and so on. It was 2k vision of what to do with it presentation. Something that has been a long term thing with them since dreamcast, before the ESPN License. They can use their own 2ksports highlights, replays and presentation. And it will come gradually as a great thing.
The way the players reacted on the field, the sideline animations showing attitude, coaches reactions, crowd reactions, camera angles, 1st-person football (innovation). The hits on the field and the celebrations. This is what made 2k5 great.

Dan and Peter aren't NFL commentators and they are the greatest of video game commentating.

Its very possible to sell millions without his license. People want fun and excitement with video game football...

Madden has the license, but its not fun, and the excitement is non-existent...game is just plain boring and too bland.

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Let me use this term loosely, but an "open source" football game could create one of the biggest cult following games ever.
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Re: All Pro Football to outsell Madden?

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2ksports doesn't need the license to outsell them, they need great advertising, and an eye opener for newcomers...Its very possible to sell millions without his license. People want fun and excitement with video game football...
So it's possible to sell in the 1,000,000 range, then it's possible to outsell
Madden, no?

The idea that 2K shouldn't compete against Madden, I see the rationale,
but I also see an opportunity to sway fans over. 2K is indeed going head
to head with EA. For now both have 8/14 launch dates. Is that a bluff?
Time will tell.
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Old 02-12-2007, 07:38 PM   #53
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Re: All Pro Football to outsell Madden?

Don't interpret this as a slam against APF 2k8, because its not, but if Madden ONLY outsells 2k8 by a 5 to 1 margin, that would be quite a accomplishment for 2k8. The bottom line is that, at least for the first year, the lack of a license is going to really drag 2k8's sales numbers down.

If the franchise is able to survive for a few years, and provides a VASTLY superior gaming experience, then they might reduce the gap to 3 or 2 to 1, someday, maybe.

IMO without the license 2k8 will never come close to outselling Madden. The license is such a big, big deal to the vast majority of the football gaming public that most will never give 2k8 a fair shake solely for that reason.
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if Madden ONLY outsells 2k8 by a 5 to 1 margin, that would be quite a accomplishment for 2k8.
On that ratio, and using 3,000,000 copies sold between the two franchises,
that would mean that Madden would sell 2.5 million copies to 2K's 500K.
Now that's a ratio I cannot see panning out. Between now and August
I look forward to 2K tidbits that should create a desire to own this game.
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For the upcoming releases of All Pro Football & Madden on the Xbox 360 and PS3, I believe APF will outsell EA Sport’s perennial powerhouse.
Won't happen now or ever as long as EA owns the NFL license.
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Re: All Pro Football to outsell Madden?

Why is this even a topic?lol. No way in hell they outsell EA this year. I bet it isnt even in their thought process. There are way too many Madden zombies and NFL fans out there to ever outsell Madden. I want this game to be successful, but lets be real.
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