Backbreaker Fact Sheet and Screenshots

[Phobia]

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Nice little post from the boards.

Quote: Originally Posted by sub

1) There will be Turf and natural grass. Turf is shown on the QB throwing picture. Natural Grass on the spin picture. You can tell by looking at the shoes. With Turf, the individual grass blades do not overlap the shoes. With Grass, they do. Also looks like players are playing more on their toes than in recent versions. 2) Blocking and defending is much improved and you can really tell the difference between iterations. Way to go Todd!! Mainly, it's the hands and the difference between an O-lineman and a D-lineman. In older pictures you see the O and D lineman equidistant from each other and using their hands similarly. In the recent picture, you see the o-lineman trying to maintain distance (and thus leverage) from the D-lineman with the D-lineman attempting to "tear down" the arms of the lineman. ALso, big note, look at the height of the lineman's hands before and after engagement. Unlike Madden, in which the lineman's arms are always above the chest, the Euphoria actors are aware that a good block generally involves "swinging the bar", starting low and then exploding up through the D-lineman's pads, driving them off-balance and back on their heels. The lineman not engaged are still ready to spring while those engaged are much higher, even to the level of the facemask. 3) What happened to the glowing lines? Perhaps replay doesn't show it, or the ability to turn it off is provided. Not sure. 4) The difference in musculature is significant, with the passing photo showing significant detail in the forearm. This is approaching the detail seen in what we thought were conceptual player pictures. 5) Love the way they are using the "sitting" for significant changes in direction. In the passing photo, look how much number 11 is sitting on his route as he changes direction to an out pattern. Right leg is nearly parallel with the body while the left leg is at 25 degrees for the push-off. 6) In the leap, it looks like the pass is intended not for Lee but number 80-something. The ball is dropping down in a line that goes through the three players. So, I don't think they are incorrectly going for the ball. Lee is reacting late to a ball that is overthrown, the DB is trying to catch it at its highest pint and number 94's momentum is taking him out of the play. Unsure how quickly the ball is dropping. The actual receiver looks like he is attempting to stop more than he is trying to catch the ball with both arms thrown in the path of intended movement. 21 is not reacting to the ball because of vision cone. This may someday falll under "secondary cone" behavior, or reaction to the other players around him causing him to break off his assignment and head towards the ball without actually seeing it. 7) I think the crowd looks awesome, but I think the aisles look too pristine. They should have more people getting food and sodas, even in the amazing plays. People stop on the stairs during a play, and then continue on. Especially with cueing by crowd noise. 8) Sidelines may look bare, but I do see the addition of yard marker cones but only in certain stadiums. 9) Lighting continues to be the star of the show for me. If you look at a Madden game at night, you would htink that the lights are somehow maintained equidistant from the players and at the same angle. They seem to use a "flower petal" underlay centered at the feet and jutting out int he cardinal directions with lesser shadows occurring in the semi-cardinal directions. (NE, SE, SW, NW). In the leaping picture which is taken at night, the light across from them seems to be more directed at them (as expected) and thus the shadows are elongated from the players away from the lights and more pronounced from the far light source (since the closer light sources would be at a shallower angle to light mid-field more. Compare that witht he night shot of the pass at midfield, where the shadows are much more faint (having been filled in by both lights) and the less pronounced elongation.

[bigjake62505]

Quote: Originally Posted by Phobia

First I am not insulting you as you mentioned. I said your post was ignorant. Ignorant –adjective 1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man. 2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics. 3. uninformed; unaware. 4. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement. Meaning I am stating you are talking about a subject as if you know how it is handled. I stated you had NO clue how it is being handled. I also NEVER stated I knew more, so NO I am NOT ignorant with you. I did state that I know from the articles I have read that the online world is where devs are going to be focusing their efforts. So while you make that post with the sarcastic under tone about not being bent out of shape. It is clear to see by your post that it did touch a nerve with you and you handled it by trying to lump me into the same ball park as you. We are far different in our approach. I also never stated I had "vast knowledge" as you pointed to in your last two posts. I was commenting on YOUR post and the "lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned" as the meaning of ignorant means. I made comments stating that you had no clue and I never mentioned that I had more knowledge. I then went on to talk about my view on the "gameplay perspective". Since I hit a nerve with you on the "lack of knowledge"(aka ignorant) comment, it has been your agenda to try and bring me into a negative light.

You call me ignorant because I made statements that you stated were not true. Ok so if they are not true correct me with the true statements. I have no clue about anything I am talking about, but you do? So please state facts that you know to be true. The only thing you have done is copy the definition of ignorant out ot the e-dictionary. Where is your references on the budget that backbreaker has or the number of dev's they have working on the game? Where is your resume on developing games? How much traning do you have? You have enough knowledge to call me ignorant on a subject but you lack the references to back up your claims. You are so ignorant you cant see the hiprocracy in your own post. You argue that the dev's should work on gameplay alone after the fact that there is already a franchise mode in the game. It's already in the game, they must have enough time to get it in there. One thing I will say you could be the only person in history who can notice sarcastic under tones in text. LOL. Ok so on your next post please share your knowledge on game development, Back Breaker budget, Back Breaker employee numbers who have worked on the game, your game development resume. If you can't then the dicussion is over.

[bigjake62505]

Private message from Phobia...
"I guess you just the sensitive type. I guess some words are just to strong for you to handle. Maybe understand the meaning of ignorant will help calm you down. Because as of now I feel like I have to baby talk to you so not to hurt your feelings. Like I am talking to a little kid.

I guess maybe I grew up in a different atmosphere. Maybe you grew up in a women household, I am not sure. Where I come from, men have a little more back bone than getting "insulted" by the word ignorant."

Thanks for the private message HA. Its my first internet fight. I love it. Its purely entertaining now.

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigjake62505

You call me ignorant because I made statements that you stated were not true. Ok so if they are not true correct me with the true statements. I have no clue about anything I am talking about, but you do? So please state facts that you know to be true. The only thing you have done is copy the definition of ignorant out ot the e-dictionary. Where is your references on the budget that backbreaker has or the number of dev's they have working on the game? Where is your resume on developing games? How much traning do you have? You have enough knowledge to call me ignorant on a subject but you lack the references to back up your claims. You are so ignorant you cant see the hiprocracy in your own post. You argue that the dev's should work on gameplay alone after the fact that there is already a franchise mode in the game. It's already in the game, they must have enough time to get it in there. One thing I will say you could be the only person in history who can notice sarcastic under tones in text. LOL. Ok so on your next post please share your knowledge on game development, Back Breaker budget, Back Breaker employee numbers who have worked on the game, your game development resume. If you can't then the dicussion is over.

I have tried multiple times to inform you about your post. I WILL NOT continue to derail this thread. If you wish to go into this deeper and me further show you the ignorance in your post then PM me. End of story.

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigjake62505

Private message from Phobia... "I guess you just the sensitive type. I guess some words are just to strong for you to handle. Maybe understand the meaning of ignorant will help calm you down. Because as of now I feel like I have to baby talk to you so not to hurt your feelings. Like I am talking to a little kid. I guess maybe I grew up in a different atmosphere. Maybe you grew up in a women household, I am not sure. Where I come from, men have a little more back bone than getting "insulted" by the word ignorant." Thanks for the private message HA. Its my first internet fight. I love it. Its purely entertaining now.

First of all it was a PM which means private message. That is my feelings on how this has been derailed with you. PM if u wanna discuss further.

[bigjake62505]

You, me and one other viewing right now. No worries my friend We have the forum to our selvs. I thought you were going to post your references and experences?

[bigjake62505]

Hey I am trying to get my post count up. You see we joined around the same time but you have around 4,000 more post than me.

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigjake62505

You, me and one other viewing right now. No worries my friend We have the forum to our selvs. I thought you were going to post your references and experences?

Show my post where I said I was going to do that?

Show where I said i knew more than you?

I stated you had no clue what you were talking about and can't make the claims you were. You sensitive side could not handle that. Then you continue with the stomp my feet for attention thing going on.