Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

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  • Lisa_Bonami
    Banned
    • Aug 2003
    • 1293

    #1

    Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

    Just curious to get your opinion about how you all feel about having only 4 attributes to differentiate between all the players in the game? Do you think this a bit too limiting to distinguish all the subtlies and distinctions that we've come to expect from various players around the league?


    btw, I am just loving this demo....for all the things that you could argue that are limited or rudimentary from a football perspective, is more then compensated by the fact that every single play, hit, tackle is always a little different. This just keeps the game so fresh and exciting to continue to play and almost makes up for all the minor shortcomings of a first year sports title.
    Last edited by Lisa_Bonami; 05-22-2010, 08:37 PM. Reason: taste
  • mestevo
    Gooney Goo Goo
    • Apr 2010
    • 19556

    #2
    Re: Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

    It's a physics based game though, you have those attributes + height and weight.

    I could see granularity issues too though.

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    • Nicknam4
      Banned
      • Jul 2009
      • 105

      #3
      Re: Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

      The ratings are relative to posistion. A QB with 90 strength is not the same as a MLB with 90 strength. They also work and represent themselves the way they are supposed to.

      Because of this, I can deal with only 4 ratings. It's better than 20 ratings that mean nothing.

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      • CreatineKasey
        MVP
        • Sep 2007
        • 4897

        #4
        Re: Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

        I think those are the only 4 attributes we see. I think there's more. I bet there's Arm strength, pass accuracy.
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        • mgoblue678
          MVP
          • Jul 2008
          • 3371

          #5
          Re: Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

          Why are guys not sure that the other attributes are just not viewable in the demo?

          The devs have stated at least a couple times that there a position specific ratings as well like throwing power and accuracy. Until we play the full game I am just going with the notion that they were simply left not viewable in the demo but are still in the full game.
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          • Soodmeg
            Banned
            • Dec 2007
            • 232

            #6
            Re: Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

            I dont think so as long as they actually work. I could care less if there was just 1 overall rating or something....just as long as what the number says reflects what happens on the field.

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            • Lisa_Bonami
              Banned
              • Aug 2003
              • 1293

              #7
              Re: Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

              good point...I guess my biggest fear/concern is will we ever be able to see subtle distinctions and styles of different players in the league with just 4 attributes. For example, we all know that in the NFL, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens and Larry Fitzgerald are all star caliber WRs but are also distinctively different in their strengths and weaknesses.

              Do you think we will be able to see these subtle distinctions in this game?.....just a question for discussion.


              I do love what this game brings to the table in revolutionary terms....its a sports game that finally takes gameplay to next gen with its physics based engine

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              • mgoblue678
                MVP
                • Jul 2008
                • 3371

                #8
                Re: Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

                Once again, if very well could be the case that the other attributes just aren't viewable in the demo. Seems like you guys are ignoring that possibility which to me seems very likely considering what the devs have stated before.

                If there was only 4 attributes I would disappointed to say the least.
                Last edited by mgoblue678; 05-22-2010, 08:50 PM.
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                • NFLHITMAN
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 924

                  #9
                  Re: Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

                  There are some games out there that has 20+ attributes for players but speed is the only attribute that means anything in the game so does the other 19+ attributes matter?
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                  • LingeringRegime
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                    • Jun 2007
                    • 17089

                    #10
                    Re: Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

                    What I want to try when the full game comes out is to create a 99 strength MLB hitting a 1 strength HB. Just to see what happens on the field, lol.

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                    • culapou
                      Banned
                      • May 2010
                      • 16

                      #11
                      Re: Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

                      Of course 4 is limited, however they have the 2 biggest attributes down perfectly, unlike madden, strength, and focus(awr). It's odd how they have all the hard attributes, but the easy to implement ones like catching and throw power are missing.

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                      • mgoblue678
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 3371

                        #12
                        Re: Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

                        I just wonder why people assume they made all the attributes in the full game viewable in the demo. That very well may not be the case.
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                        • culapou
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                          • May 2010
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                          #13
                          Re: Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

                          Why would they take away attributes in the demo? That doesn't make any sense at all!

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                          • mgoblue678
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                            • Jul 2008
                            • 3371

                            #14
                            Re: Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

                            First I didn't say they took them out of the demo entirely, what I said is they may have made them not viewable to the user since we can't see any kind of player editing or roster screen. The only thing we can view is the depth chart.

                            This is from the info thread:

                            "Players are given these ratings in 4 areas: Focus, Speed, Strength, and Agility. There are also additional position specific ratings such as QB throwing accuracy."

                            I remember seeing this mentioned by the devs on at least a couple of occasions . They might have changed it at some point, but for now this is the info I am going on.

                            I have no idea why they wouldn't let us view the position specific ratings in demo if that is what they did. Doesn't mean that may not be the case.
                            Last edited by mgoblue678; 05-23-2010, 01:30 AM.
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                            • culapou
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                              • May 2010
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                              #15
                              Re: Do you think that ONLY 4 Attributes is going to limit the player dynamics?

                              Why would they go out of their way to make certain attributes invisible, except for the ones we've been hearing about all along? Too farfetched for me.

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