What up yall? I've been playing with Finz roster editor for the last week and testing ratings to see how players react and interact at what ranges.
The observation that stands out the most for me is that players consistently separate themselves from other player in the same position when there is a +15 boost in ratings
This lead me to think about APF, and how players got a boost in performance based on the abilities and rank awarded to them.
So far I'm getting realistic games.
Here are some of my separations.
Stats are in the order of Focus, Agility, Speed, and Strength.
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GOLD:105,70,70,30
D. Brees - Elite boost:
P. Manning - Elite boost:
T. Brady - Elite boost:
A. Rodgers -
P. Rivers -
B. Favre -
T. Romo -
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SILVER:90,70,70,30
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BRONZE:75,70,70,30
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WR
GOLD:95,95,95,40
A. Johnson - Elite boost:
L. Fitzgerald - Elite boost:
B. <st1:city w:st="on">Marshall</st1:city> - Elite boost:
R. <st1><st1:city w:st="on">Wayne</st1:city></st1>- Elite boost:
R. Moss - Elite boost:
R. White -
S. Smith -
D. <st1:city w:st="on">Jackson</st1:city> -
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<!--[endif]-->SILVER:80,80,80,40
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<!--[endif]-->BRONZE:65,65,65,40
TE
GOLD:80,80,80,75
Tony Gonzalez - Elite boost:
J. Witten - Elite boost:
V. <st1><st1:city w:st="on">Davis</st1:city></st1> - Elite boost:
A. Gates - Elite boost:
D. Clark - Elite boost:
H. Miller -
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SILVER:65,65,65,60
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BRONZE:50,50,65,60
HB
GOLD:90,90,90,60
C. Johnson - Elite boost:
A. Peterson - Elite boost:
M. Jones-Drew - Elite boost:
<st1>S. Jackson</st1> - Elite boost:
F. Gore -
D. Williams -
R. Rice -
M. Turner -
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SILVER:75,75,75,45
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BRONZE:60,60,60,30
FB
GOLD: 80,80,80,75
T. Richardson - - Elite boost:
L. Polite -
L. Weaver -
L. McLain -
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SILVER:65,65,65,60
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BRONZE 50,50,50,45
<o></o>
OL-
GOLD:60,60,60,105
<o></o>
LT-<o></o>
R. Clardy - Elite boost:
J. Long - Elite boost:
J. Thomas - Elite boost:
M. Roos - Elite boost:
J. Gross - Elite boost:
D. <st1><st1:city w:st="on">Ferguson</st1:city></st1> -
J. Brown -
B. McKinnie -
<o></o>
LG-
S. Hutchinson - Elite boost:
L. Mankins - Elite boost:
B. Grubbs -
K. Dielman -
C. Nicks -
<st1>E. Steinback</st1> -
A. Faneca -
<o></o>
C-<o></o>
N. Mangold - Elite boost:
A. Gurode -
J. Saturday -
S. O'Hara -
M. Birk -
R. Kalil -
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RG-<o></o>
J. Evans - Elite boost:
C. Snee - Elite boost:
<o></o>
RT-<o></o>
J. Stinchcomb - Elite boost:
SILVER:60,60,60,90
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BRONZE:60,60,60,75
DT-
GOLD:60,60,60,90
K. Williams - Elite boost:
V. Wilfork - Elite boost:
J. Ratliff -
K. Jenkins -
<st1>S. Rogers</st1>
C. Hampton -
A. <st1:city w:st="on">Franklin</st1:city> -
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SILVER:60,45,45,75
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BRONZE:60,30,30,60
DE-
GOLD:60,60,65,85
LE-<o></o>
R. Mathis - Elite boost:
J. Tuck -
R. <st1:city w:st="on"><st1>Seymour</st1></st1:city>
<o></o>
RE-<o></o>
J. Allen - Elite boost:
D. Freeney - Elite boost:
M. Williams - Elite boost:
T. Cole - Elite boost:
J. Peppers - Elite boost:
H. Ngata -
D. Dockett -
W. Smith -
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SILVER:60,60,65,70
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BRONZE:60,60,65,55
LB-
GOLD:80,80,80,70
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LOLB-<o></o>
L. Woodley -
S. Phillips -
<o></o>
MLB-<o></o>
P. Willis - Elite boost:
J. Beason - Elite boost:
R. Lewis -
D. Harris -
B. Ruud -
L. Fletcher -
D. Ryans -
J. Vilma -
<o></o>
ROLB-<o></o>
D. Ware - Elite boost:
J. <st1>Harrison</st1> - Elite boost:
E. Dumervil -
L. Briggs -
T. Suggs - <o></o>
<o></o>
SILVER:65,65,65,55
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BRONZE:50,50,50,40
CB-
GOLD:95,95,95,40
D. Revis - Elite boost:
N. Asomugha - Elite boost:
C. Woodson - Elite boost:
C. Bailey - Elite boost:
A. Samuel -
J. Joseph -
L. Hall -
C. Finnegan -
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SILVER:8O,8O,8O,40
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BRONZE:65,65,65,40
FS-
GOLD:90,90,90,60
E. Reed - Elite boost:
A. Bethea - Elite boost:
D. Sharper -
N. Collins -
O. Atogwe -
B. Dawkins -
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SILVER:75,75,75,60
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BRONZE:60,60,60,60
SS-
GOLD:85,85,85,65
T. Polamalu - Elite boost:
A. Wilson - Elite boost:
B. Sanders -
<o></o>
SILVER:70,70,70,65
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BRONZE:55,55,55,65
Elite players would be given an extra +15 boost in ratings depending on true life abilities.
Examples:
Chris Johnson Would get a +15 speed
Manning, Brady, +15 in Focus
Randy Moss +15 in Speed, Focus.
Elite Top Players
Top Quarterbacks
D. Brees - Focus, Agility,
P. Manning - Focus
T. Brady - Focus
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Top Running Backs
C. Johnson - Focus, Speed, Agility,
A. Peterson - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
M. Jones-Drew - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
S. Jackson -Speed, Strength
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Top Fullbacks
T. Richardson - Focus, Strength
Top Wide Receivers
A. Johnson - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
L. Fitzgerald - Focus, Speed, Agility
B. Marshall - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
R. Wayne - Focus, Speed, Agility
R. Moss - Focus, Speed, Agility
Top Tight Ends
Tony Gonzalez - Focus, Agility, Strength
J. Witten - Focus, Agility, Strength
V. Davis - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
A. Gates - Focus, Speed, Agility,
D. Clark - Focus, Agility
Top Left Tackles
R. Clardy - Focus, Agility, Strength
J. Long - Focus, Agility, Strength
J. Thomas - Focus, Agility, Strength
M. Roos - Focus, Agility, Strength
J. Gross - Focus, Agility, Strength
Top Left Guards
S. Hutchinson - Focus, Agility, Strength
L. Mankins - Focus, Agility, Strength
Top Centers
N. Mangold - Focus, Agility, Strength
Top Right Guards
J. Evans - Focus, Agility, Strength
C. Snee - Focus, Agility, Strength
Top Right Tackles
None Yet
Top Left Ends
R. Mathis - Focus, Speed, Agility
Top Right Ends
J. Allen - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
D. Freeney - Focus, Speed, Agility
M. Williams - Speed, Agility, Strength
T. Cole - Focus, Speed, Agility,
J. Peppers - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
H. Ngata - Strength
Top Defensive Tackles
K. Williams - Strength
V. Wilfork - Strength
Top LOLB
None yet.
Top MLB
P. Willis - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
J. Beason - Speed, Agility, Strength
Top ROLB
D. Ware - Speed, Strength
J. Harrison - Focus, Strength
Top Corners
D. Revis - Focus, Speed, Agility
N. Asomugha - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
C. Woodson - Focus, Speed
C. Bailey - Focus, Speed, Agility
Top FS
E. Reed - Focus, Speed
A. Bethea - Focus, Speed
D. Sharper - Focus, Strength
Top SS
T. Polamalu - Focus, Speed, Agility, strength
A. Wilson - Focus, Strength
Top Kickers
R. Gould - Focus
N. Kaeding - Focus
Top Punters
S. Lechlar - Focus
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The observation that stands out the most for me is that players consistently separate themselves from other player in the same position when there is a +15 boost in ratings
This lead me to think about APF, and how players got a boost in performance based on the abilities and rank awarded to them.
So far I'm getting realistic games.
Here are some of my separations.
Stats are in the order of Focus, Agility, Speed, and Strength.
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GOLD:105,70,70,30
D. Brees - Elite boost:
P. Manning - Elite boost:
T. Brady - Elite boost:
A. Rodgers -
P. Rivers -
B. Favre -
T. Romo -
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SILVER:90,70,70,30
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<!--[endif]-->
BRONZE:75,70,70,30
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WR
GOLD:95,95,95,40
A. Johnson - Elite boost:
L. Fitzgerald - Elite boost:
B. <st1:city w:st="on">Marshall</st1:city> - Elite boost:
R. <st1><st1:city w:st="on">Wayne</st1:city></st1>- Elite boost:
R. Moss - Elite boost:
R. White -
S. Smith -
D. <st1:city w:st="on">Jackson</st1:city> -
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<!--[endif]-->SILVER:80,80,80,40
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<!--[endif]-->BRONZE:65,65,65,40
TE
GOLD:80,80,80,75
Tony Gonzalez - Elite boost:
J. Witten - Elite boost:
V. <st1><st1:city w:st="on">Davis</st1:city></st1> - Elite boost:
A. Gates - Elite boost:
D. Clark - Elite boost:
H. Miller -
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<!--[endif]-->
SILVER:65,65,65,60
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BRONZE:50,50,65,60
HB
GOLD:90,90,90,60
C. Johnson - Elite boost:
A. Peterson - Elite boost:
M. Jones-Drew - Elite boost:
<st1>S. Jackson</st1> - Elite boost:
F. Gore -
D. Williams -
R. Rice -
M. Turner -
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SILVER:75,75,75,45
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BRONZE:60,60,60,30
FB
GOLD: 80,80,80,75
T. Richardson - - Elite boost:
L. Polite -
L. Weaver -
L. McLain -
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<!--[endif]-->
SILVER:65,65,65,60
<!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
<!--[endif]-->
BRONZE 50,50,50,45
<o></o>
OL-
GOLD:60,60,60,105
<o></o>
LT-<o></o>
R. Clardy - Elite boost:
J. Long - Elite boost:
J. Thomas - Elite boost:
M. Roos - Elite boost:
J. Gross - Elite boost:
D. <st1><st1:city w:st="on">Ferguson</st1:city></st1> -
J. Brown -
B. McKinnie -
<o></o>
LG-
S. Hutchinson - Elite boost:
L. Mankins - Elite boost:
B. Grubbs -
K. Dielman -
C. Nicks -
<st1>E. Steinback</st1> -
A. Faneca -
<o></o>
C-<o></o>
N. Mangold - Elite boost:
A. Gurode -
J. Saturday -
S. O'Hara -
M. Birk -
R. Kalil -
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RG-<o></o>
J. Evans - Elite boost:
C. Snee - Elite boost:
<o></o>
RT-<o></o>
J. Stinchcomb - Elite boost:
SILVER:60,60,60,90
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BRONZE:60,60,60,75
DT-
GOLD:60,60,60,90
K. Williams - Elite boost:
V. Wilfork - Elite boost:
J. Ratliff -
K. Jenkins -
<st1>S. Rogers</st1>
C. Hampton -
A. <st1:city w:st="on">Franklin</st1:city> -
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SILVER:60,45,45,75
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BRONZE:60,30,30,60
DE-
GOLD:60,60,65,85
LE-<o></o>
R. Mathis - Elite boost:
J. Tuck -
R. <st1:city w:st="on"><st1>Seymour</st1></st1:city>
<o></o>
RE-<o></o>
J. Allen - Elite boost:
D. Freeney - Elite boost:
M. Williams - Elite boost:
T. Cole - Elite boost:
J. Peppers - Elite boost:
H. Ngata -
D. Dockett -
W. Smith -
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<!--[endif]-->
SILVER:60,60,65,70
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<!--[endif]-->
BRONZE:60,60,65,55
LB-
GOLD:80,80,80,70
<!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
LOLB-<o></o>
L. Woodley -
S. Phillips -
<o></o>
MLB-<o></o>
P. Willis - Elite boost:
J. Beason - Elite boost:
R. Lewis -
D. Harris -
B. Ruud -
L. Fletcher -
D. Ryans -
J. Vilma -
<o></o>
ROLB-<o></o>
D. Ware - Elite boost:
J. <st1>Harrison</st1> - Elite boost:
E. Dumervil -
L. Briggs -
T. Suggs - <o></o>
<o></o>
SILVER:65,65,65,55
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BRONZE:50,50,50,40
CB-
GOLD:95,95,95,40
D. Revis - Elite boost:
N. Asomugha - Elite boost:
C. Woodson - Elite boost:
C. Bailey - Elite boost:
A. Samuel -
J. Joseph -
L. Hall -
C. Finnegan -
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SILVER:8O,8O,8O,40
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BRONZE:65,65,65,40
FS-
GOLD:90,90,90,60
E. Reed - Elite boost:
A. Bethea - Elite boost:
D. Sharper -
N. Collins -
O. Atogwe -
B. Dawkins -
<!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
<!--[endif]-->
SILVER:75,75,75,60
<!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
<!--[endif]-->
BRONZE:60,60,60,60
SS-
GOLD:85,85,85,65
T. Polamalu - Elite boost:
A. Wilson - Elite boost:
B. Sanders -
<o></o>
SILVER:70,70,70,65
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<!--[endif]-->
BRONZE:55,55,55,65
Elite players would be given an extra +15 boost in ratings depending on true life abilities.
Examples:
Chris Johnson Would get a +15 speed
Manning, Brady, +15 in Focus
Randy Moss +15 in Speed, Focus.
Elite Top Players
Top Quarterbacks
D. Brees - Focus, Agility,
P. Manning - Focus
T. Brady - Focus
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<!--[endif]-->
Top Running Backs
C. Johnson - Focus, Speed, Agility,
A. Peterson - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
M. Jones-Drew - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
S. Jackson -Speed, Strength
<!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
<!--[endif]-->
Top Fullbacks
T. Richardson - Focus, Strength
Top Wide Receivers
A. Johnson - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
L. Fitzgerald - Focus, Speed, Agility
B. Marshall - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
R. Wayne - Focus, Speed, Agility
R. Moss - Focus, Speed, Agility
Top Tight Ends
Tony Gonzalez - Focus, Agility, Strength
J. Witten - Focus, Agility, Strength
V. Davis - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
A. Gates - Focus, Speed, Agility,
D. Clark - Focus, Agility
Top Left Tackles
R. Clardy - Focus, Agility, Strength
J. Long - Focus, Agility, Strength
J. Thomas - Focus, Agility, Strength
M. Roos - Focus, Agility, Strength
J. Gross - Focus, Agility, Strength
Top Left Guards
S. Hutchinson - Focus, Agility, Strength
L. Mankins - Focus, Agility, Strength
Top Centers
N. Mangold - Focus, Agility, Strength
Top Right Guards
J. Evans - Focus, Agility, Strength
C. Snee - Focus, Agility, Strength
Top Right Tackles
None Yet
Top Left Ends
R. Mathis - Focus, Speed, Agility
Top Right Ends
J. Allen - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
D. Freeney - Focus, Speed, Agility
M. Williams - Speed, Agility, Strength
T. Cole - Focus, Speed, Agility,
J. Peppers - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
H. Ngata - Strength
Top Defensive Tackles
K. Williams - Strength
V. Wilfork - Strength
Top LOLB
None yet.
Top MLB
P. Willis - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
J. Beason - Speed, Agility, Strength
Top ROLB
D. Ware - Speed, Strength
J. Harrison - Focus, Strength
Top Corners
D. Revis - Focus, Speed, Agility
N. Asomugha - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
C. Woodson - Focus, Speed
C. Bailey - Focus, Speed, Agility
Top FS
E. Reed - Focus, Speed
A. Bethea - Focus, Speed
D. Sharper - Focus, Strength
Top SS
T. Polamalu - Focus, Speed, Agility, strength
A. Wilson - Focus, Strength
Top Kickers
R. Gould - Focus
N. Kaeding - Focus
Top Punters
S. Lechlar - Focus
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stats. Better have safety help.
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