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  • #1
    project_mist
    Rookie
    • Aug 2008
    • 51

    Backbreaker "Project Able" Abilities Project


    What up yall? I've been playing with Finz roster editor for the last week and testing ratings to see how players react and interact at what ranges.

    The observation that stands out the most for me is that players consistently separate themselves from other player in the same position when there is a +15 boost in ratings

    This lead me to think about APF, and how players got a boost in performance based on the abilities and rank awarded to them.

    So far I'm getting realistic games.

    Here are some of my separations.

    Stats are in the order of Focus, Agility, Speed, and Strength.

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    GOLD:105,70,70,30
    D. Brees - Elite boost:
    P. Manning - Elite boost:
    T. Brady - Elite boost:
    A. Rodgers -
    P. Rivers -
    B. Favre -
    T. Romo -
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    SILVER:90,70,70,30
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    BRONZE:75,70,70,30
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
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    WR

    GOLD:95,95,95,40
    A. Johnson - Elite boost:
    L. Fitzgerald - Elite boost:
    B. <st1:city w:st="on">Marshall</st1:city> - Elite boost:
    R. <st1><st1:city w:st="on">Wayne</st1:city></st1>- Elite boost:
    R. Moss - Elite boost:
    R. White -
    S. Smith -
    D. <st1:city w:st="on">Jackson</st1:city> -
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->SILVER:80,80,80,40
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->BRONZE:65,65,65,40

    TE
    GOLD:80,80,80,75
    Tony Gonzalez - Elite boost:
    J. Witten - Elite boost:
    V. <st1><st1:city w:st="on">Davis</st1:city></st1> - Elite boost:
    A. Gates - Elite boost:
    D. Clark - Elite boost:
    H. Miller -
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    SILVER:65,65,65,60
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    BRONZE:50,50,65,60

    HB
    GOLD:90,90,90,60
    C. Johnson - Elite boost:
    A. Peterson - Elite boost:
    M. Jones-Drew - Elite boost:
    <st1>S. Jackson</st1> - Elite boost:
    F. Gore -
    D. Williams -
    R. Rice -
    M. Turner -
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    SILVER:75,75,75,45
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    BRONZE:60,60,60,30

    FB
    GOLD: 80,80,80,75
    T. Richardson - - Elite boost:
    L. Polite -
    L. Weaver -
    L. McLain -
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    SILVER:65,65,65,60
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    BRONZE 50,50,50,45
    <o></o>
    OL-
    GOLD:60,60,60,105
    <o></o>
    LT-<o></o>
    R. Clardy - Elite boost:
    J. Long - Elite boost:
    J. Thomas - Elite boost:
    M. Roos - Elite boost:
    J. Gross - Elite boost:
    D. <st1><st1:city w:st="on">Ferguson</st1:city></st1> -
    J. Brown -
    B. McKinnie -
    <o></o>
    LG-
    S. Hutchinson - Elite boost:
    L. Mankins - Elite boost:
    B. Grubbs -
    K. Dielman -
    C. Nicks -
    <st1>E. Steinback</st1> -
    A. Faneca -
    <o></o>
    C-<o></o>
    N. Mangold - Elite boost:
    A. Gurode -
    J. Saturday -
    S. O'Hara -
    M. Birk -
    R. Kalil -
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
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    RG-<o></o>
    J. Evans - Elite boost:
    C. Snee - Elite boost:
    <o></o>
    RT-<o></o>
    J. Stinchcomb - Elite boost:

    SILVER:60,60,60,90
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    BRONZE:60,60,60,75

    DT-
    GOLD:60,60,60,90
    K. Williams - Elite boost:
    V. Wilfork - Elite boost:
    J. Ratliff -
    K. Jenkins -
    <st1>S. Rogers</st1>
    C. Hampton -
    A. <st1:city w:st="on">Franklin</st1:city> -
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
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    SILVER:60,45,45,75
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
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    BRONZE:60,30,30,60

    DE-
    GOLD:60,60,65,85
    LE-<o></o>
    R. Mathis - Elite boost:
    J. Tuck -
    R. <st1:city w:st="on"><st1>Seymour</st1></st1:city>
    <o></o>
    RE-<o></o>
    J. Allen - Elite boost:
    D. Freeney - Elite boost:
    M. Williams - Elite boost:
    T. Cole - Elite boost:
    J. Peppers - Elite boost:
    H. Ngata -
    D. Dockett -
    W. Smith -
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    SILVER:60,60,65,70
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    BRONZE:60,60,65,55

    LB-
    GOLD:80,80,80,70
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->

    LOLB-<o></o>
    L. Woodley -
    S. Phillips -
    <o></o>
    MLB-<o></o>
    P. Willis - Elite boost:
    J. Beason - Elite boost:
    R. Lewis -
    D. Harris -
    B. Ruud -
    L. Fletcher -
    D. Ryans -
    J. Vilma -
    <o></o>
    ROLB-<o></o>
    D. Ware - Elite boost:
    J. <st1>Harrison</st1> - Elite boost:
    E. Dumervil -
    L. Briggs -
    T. Suggs - <o></o>
    <o></o>
    SILVER:65,65,65,55
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    BRONZE:50,50,50,40

    CB-
    GOLD:95,95,95,40
    D. Revis - Elite boost:
    N. Asomugha - Elite boost:
    C. Woodson - Elite boost:
    C. Bailey - Elite boost:
    A. Samuel -
    J. Joseph -
    L. Hall -
    C. Finnegan -
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    SILVER:8O,8O,8O,40
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    BRONZE:65,65,65,40

    FS-
    GOLD:90,90,90,60
    E. Reed - Elite boost:
    A. Bethea - Elite boost:
    D. Sharper -
    N. Collins -
    O. Atogwe -
    B. Dawkins -
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    SILVER:75,75,75,60
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    BRONZE:60,60,60,60

    SS-
    GOLD:85,85,85,65
    T. Polamalu - Elite boost:
    A. Wilson - Elite boost:
    B. Sanders -
    <o></o>
    SILVER:70,70,70,65
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    BRONZE:55,55,55,65

    Elite players would be given an extra +15 boost in ratings depending on true life abilities.

    Examples:
    Chris Johnson Would get a +15 speed
    Manning, Brady, +15 in Focus
    Randy Moss +15 in Speed, Focus.

    Elite Top Players

    Top Quarterbacks
    D. Brees - Focus, Agility,
    P. Manning - Focus
    T. Brady - Focus
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    Top Running Backs
    C. Johnson - Focus, Speed, Agility,
    A. Peterson - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
    M. Jones-Drew - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
    S. Jackson -Speed, Strength
    <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
    <!--[endif]-->
    Top Fullbacks
    T. Richardson - Focus, Strength

    Top Wide Receivers
    A. Johnson - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
    L. Fitzgerald - Focus, Speed, Agility
    B. Marshall - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
    R. Wayne - Focus, Speed, Agility
    R. Moss - Focus, Speed, Agility


    Top Tight Ends
    Tony Gonzalez - Focus, Agility, Strength
    J. Witten - Focus, Agility, Strength
    V. Davis - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
    A. Gates - Focus, Speed, Agility,
    D. Clark - Focus, Agility

    Top Left Tackles
    R. Clardy - Focus, Agility, Strength
    J. Long - Focus, Agility, Strength
    J. Thomas - Focus, Agility, Strength
    M. Roos - Focus, Agility, Strength
    J. Gross - Focus, Agility, Strength

    Top Left Guards
    S. Hutchinson - Focus, Agility, Strength
    L. Mankins - Focus, Agility, Strength


    Top Centers
    N. Mangold - Focus, Agility, Strength

    Top Right Guards
    J. Evans - Focus, Agility, Strength
    C. Snee - Focus, Agility, Strength

    Top Right Tackles
    None Yet

    Top Left Ends
    R. Mathis - Focus, Speed, Agility

    Top Right Ends
    J. Allen - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
    D. Freeney - Focus, Speed, Agility
    M. Williams - Speed, Agility, Strength
    T. Cole - Focus, Speed, Agility,
    J. Peppers - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
    H. Ngata - Strength

    Top Defensive Tackles
    K. Williams - Strength
    V. Wilfork - Strength

    Top LOLB
    None yet.

    Top MLB
    P. Willis - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
    J. Beason - Speed, Agility, Strength

    Top ROLB
    D. Ware - Speed, Strength
    J. Harrison - Focus, Strength

    Top Corners

    D. Revis - Focus, Speed, Agility
    N. Asomugha - Focus, Speed, Agility, Strength
    C. Woodson - Focus, Speed
    C. Bailey - Focus, Speed, Agility

    Top FS
    E. Reed - Focus, Speed
    A. Bethea - Focus, Speed
    D. Sharper - Focus, Strength

    Top SS
    T. Polamalu - Focus, Speed, Agility, strength
    A. Wilson - Focus, Strength

    Top Kickers

    R. Gould - Focus
    N. Kaeding - Focus

    Top Punters
    S. Lechlar - Focus
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    Last edited by project_mist; 08-06-2010, 07:55 PM.
  • #2
    sb24
    MVP
    • Dec 2008
    • 3165

    Re: Backbreaker "Project Able" Abilities Project


    Re: Backbreaker &quot;Project Able&quot; Abilities Project

    This is pre-patch I assume?

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    • #3
      sois
      Banned
      • Nov 2007
      • 1900

      Re: Backbreaker "Project Able" Abilities Project


      Re: Backbreaker &quot;Project Able&quot; Abilities Project

      Originally posted by project_mist
      Chris Henry Would get a +15 speed
      Manning, Brady, +15 in Focus
      Randy Moss +15 in Speed, Focus...


      What do you guys think?
      I will miss Slim. If jumping was a rating, he would have gotten +15.

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      • #4
        project_mist
        Rookie
        • Aug 2008
        • 51

        Re: Backbreaker "Project Able" Abilities Project


        Re: Backbreaker &quot;Project Able&quot; Abilities Project

        Yeah. Pre-Patch.

        I'm basing the ratings on the overall from madden 11... 90's is Gold, 80's Silver, 70,s is bronze.

        Elites are obviously gold players with +15 boost to any of the 4 ratings that apply.

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        • #5
          elgreazy1
          MVP
          • Apr 2007
          • 2997

          Re: Backbreaker "Project Able" Abilities Project


          Re: Backbreaker &quot;Project Able&quot; Abilities Project

          Pretty nice little write up. I always wished we APF fans could have found out what metrics the development team was working with when they created the Ability system - which I thought was truly innovative.
          My Arte
          PS5: El_Greazy
          Playing: College Football 2025, WWE 2K24, FIFA 21, Among Us, Party Animals

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          • #6
            project_mist
            Rookie
            • Aug 2008
            • 51

            Re: Backbreaker "Project Able" Abilities Project


            Re: Backbreaker &quot;Project Able&quot; Abilities Project

            Yeah... APF football was awesome with the abilities. It honestly made me cringe when I had a team with generic or bronze LB going up against O.J, Emmit, Barry and so on. I would be like... "It's going to be a long game" and surely it was.

            Nothing worse then putting a weak bronze corner with :65,65,65,40 stats against a Gold: Elite Like Brandon Marshal who has 110,110,110,55stats. Better have safety help.
            Last edited by project_mist; 08-06-2010, 06:59 PM.

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