The 30 Team Fantasy Draft Association

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Quote: Originally Posted by trekfan

I'll second the vote for Curry over Wall. Curry is indeed a lights out shooter and could launch himself into greatest shooter of all time (the Ray Allen/Reggie Miller area). Is Curry better than Holiday? I'm torn. I really like Holiday's game but it's limited offensively in comparison to Curry. Holiday is more two guard anyway. As for the rest of the draft, my thoughts. I don't see the Bobcats picking Lebron#1. Yes, he's the best player right now but the Bobcats would be looking to secure a long term future star at that number 1 spot. I think KD is the pick here. The Pistons would be in the same boat-looking for that long term star, as would the Magic, Twolves, and Wizards. I could see Lebron hitting the Rockets, Warriors, Spurs, or Grizzlies. Irving would go in the top 3 to me (so the Pistons or Magic). He's got superstar potential and the dude can win games by himself. Lilliard, Paul George, D-Cousins, Monroe, Holiday, and Lopez likely don't make it out of the top 20, though I understand some franchises (like the Knicks) value marketing/star power over long term investment. You'll have to take each Franchises history into account when you draft here. I'm surprised you don't have D12 in the first round ... he's still the best center out there (Bynum is injury prone, Lopez doesn't rebound consistently). I think Marc Gasol doesn't get drafted in the first round, Rudy Gay is overvalued in the game (he's not his rating), and so is Ellis. I'd sub out Ellis for Jennings (his younger backcourt counterpart), and Gasol can get subbed out for Harrison Barnes/MKG. My thoughts.

For starters, D-12 is in the first round. He's #3 overall. And on the note of centers, I agree that Gasol is overvalued, though I would swap him out with someone like Horford than Barnes/MKG.

On another note, I disagree with your LeBron/bobcats statement. Remember, this is a fantasy draft, so what says the Bobcats will end up being a rebuilding team when all is said and done? I think no matter what you go LeBron #1. We could see the Heat rebuilding and the 'Cats winning the title, who knows.

[trekfan]

Quote: Originally Posted by chinatownpwnage

Nice to see you reading this trek! My thoughts on your comments: I believe Jrue is a point. He has proven his ability to run the team this year form that position. I see your justified position of Lebron falling, but (and trust me i'm not the biggest lebron fan) I have to credit him as the best players, and he is only 28, so the only thing I can think is switching KD35 with Lebron, but Lebron would definitely be drafted second if that was the case. Also, I will look into your thoughts of the middle of the first. Next, Dwight is pick number 3, I proposed the question, though, would the Magic take him? I agree with your stand on Rudy Gay, but using sim-world rosters, i also took into account how they perform in the game.

Completely missed D12, LOL, it's been a long day. Okay, so with that in mind, yeah, he belongs up there.

Bobcats could take Lebron, but I like KD there.

As for the Magic taking D12 ... No. I see Orlando taking anyone else there. Like K-Love, Russel, Harden, ect. D12 burned Orlando, bad blood there.

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Official Round 1

1. Bobcats - Lebron James

2. Pistons - Kevin Durant

3. Magic - Derrick Rose

4. Grizzlies - Dwight Howard

5. Rockets - Kyrie Irving

6. Thunder - Russell Westbrook

7. Warriors - Chris Paul

8. Wizards - Kobe Bryant (too early? for players like him and Duncan, where do they go?)

9. Spurs - Andrew Bynum

10. Timberwolves - Dwyane Wade

11. Clippers - Blake Griffin

12. Bulls - James Harden

13. Nuggets - Kevin Love

14. Hawks - Rajon Rondo

15. Suns - Carmelo Anthony

16. Hornets - Deron Williams

17. Kings - Anthony Davis

18. Knicks - Demarcus Cousins

19. Mavericks - Stephen Curry

20. Jazz - Greg Monroe

21. Heat - Paul George

22. 76ers - Jrue Holiday

23. Celtics - John Wall

24. Raptors - Rudy Gay

25. Pacers - Damian Lillard

26. Bucks - Lamarcus Aldridge

27. Nets - Monta Ellis

28. Cavaliers - Brook Lopez

29. Lakers - Marc Gasol

30. Trail Blazers - Josh Smith

Top Storylines

1. Russell now the man in OKC.
2. How far will the legends, such as Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, and Dirk Nowitzki fall?
3. Clippers stick with Blake Griffin.
4. How will the last drafting teams draft in the second round since they missed out on a clear cut superstar or clear cut future piece?

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Round 2 Mock Draft

1. Trail Blazers - Tony Parker (probably the pick i'm most unsure of. Thoughts?)

2. Lakers - Brandon Jennings

3. Cavaliers - Ricky Rubio (too early?)

4. Nets - Joakim Noah

5. Bucks - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

6. Pacers - Al Jefferson

7. Raptors - Roy Hibbert

8. Celtics - Chris Bosh

9. 76ers - Serge Ibaka

10. Heat - Ty Lawson

11. Jazz - Eric Gordon

12. Mavericks - Luol Deng

13. Knicks - Tim Duncan

14. Kings - Kevin Garnett (very iffy. did to pair Davis with a mentor)

15. Hornets - Al Horford

16. Suns - Tyson Chandler

17. Hawks - O.J. Mayo

18. Nuggets - DeAndre Jordan

19. Bulls - Omer Asik

20. Clippers - Andre Iguodala

21. Timberwolves - Danny Granger

22. Spurs - Joe Johnson

23. Wizards - Kawhi Leonard

24. Warriors - Zach Randolph

25. Thunder - Danilo Gallinari

26. Rockets - Tyreke Evans

27. Grizzlies - Demar Derozan

28. Magic - Amare Stoudemire

29. Pistons - Andrew Bogut

30. Bobcats - Pau Gasol

*I'm going to go ahead and post a round 3 mock draft so the first trio of each team can be seen.*

Round 3 Mock Draft

1. Bobcats - Anderson Varejao (Lebron James, Pau Gasol, Anderson Varejao)

2. Pistons - Paul Millsap (Kevin Durant, Paul Millsap, Andrew Bogut)

3. Magic - Marcin Gortat (Derrick Rose, Amare Stoudemire, Marcin Gortat)

4. Grizzlies - Dirk Nowitzki (Demar Derozan, Dirk Nowiztki, Dwight Howard)

5. Rockets - Andre Drummond (Kyrie Irving, Tyreke Evans, Andre Drummond)

6. Thunder - Nikola Vucevic (Russell Westbrook, Danilo Gallinari, Nikola Vucevic)

7. Warriors - Paul Pierce (Chris Paul, Paul Pierce, Zach Randolph)

8. Wizards - Nikola Pecovic (Kobe Bryant, Kawhi Leonard, Nikola Pecovic)

9. Spurs - Evan Turner (Joe Johnson, Evan Turner, Andrew Bynum)

10. Timberwolves - Nene (Dwyane Wade, Danny Granger, Nene)

11. Clippers - Nicolas Batum (Andre Iguodala, Nicolas Batum, Blake Griffin)

12. Bulls - David Lee (James Harden, David Lee, Omer Asik)

13. Nuggets - Kemba Walker (Kemba Walker, Kevin Love, DeAndre Jordan)

14. Hawks - Larry Sanders (Rajon Rondo, O.J. Mayo, Larry Sanders)

15. Suns - Kyle Lowry (Kyle Lowry, Carmelo Anthony, Tyson Chandler)

16. Hornets - Kendrick Perkins (Deron Williams, Al Horford, Kendrick Perkins)

17. Kings - Harrison Barnes (Harrison Barnes, Anthony Davis, Kevin Garnett)

18. Knicks - Goran Dragic (Goran Dragic, Tim Duncan, Demarcus Cousins)

19. Mavericks - Enes Kanter (Steph Curry, Luol Deng, Enes Kanter)

20. Jazz - Kenneth Faried (Eric Gordon, Kenneth Faried, Greg Monroe)

21. Heat - Jonas Valanciunas (Ty Lawson, Paul George, Jonas Valanciunas)

22. 76ers - Javale Mcgee (Jrue Holiday, Serge Ibaka, Javale Mcgee)

23. Celtics - Gerald Wallace (John Wall, Gerald Wallace, Chris Bosh)

24. Raptors - Steve Nash (Steve Nash, Rudy Gay, Roy Hibbert)

25. Pacers - Tristan Thompson (Damian Lillard, Tristan Thompson, Al Jefferson)

26. Bucks - Mike Conley (Mike Conley, MKG, Lamarcus Aldridge)

27. Nets - Derrick Favors (Monta Ellis, Derrick Favors, Joakim Noah)

28. Cavaliers - Chandler Parsons (Ricky Rubio, Chandler Parsons, Brook Lopez)

29. Lakers - Klay Thompson (Brandon Jennings, Klay Thompson, Marc Gasol)

30. Trail Blazers - Chris Kaman (Tony Parker, Josh Smith, Chris Kaman)

Feedback Please!

[chinatownpwnage]

Any feedback before I post the official rounds, and the next mock?

[trekfan]

Quote: Originally Posted by chinatownpwnage

Round 2 Mock Draft 1. Trail Blazers - Tony Parker (probably the pick i'm most unsure of. Thoughts?) 2. Lakers - Brandon Jennings 3. Cavaliers - Ricky Rubio (too early?) 4. Nets - Joakim Noah 5. Bucks - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 6. Pacers - Al Jefferson 7. Raptors - Roy Hibbert 8. Celtics - Chris Bosh 9. 76ers - Serge Ibaka 10. Heat - Ty Lawson 11. Jazz - Eric Gordon 12. Mavericks - Luol Deng 13. Knicks - Tim Duncan 14. Kings - Kevin Garnett (very iffy. did to pair Davis with a mentor) 15. Hornets - Al Horford 16. Suns - Tyson Chandler 17. Hawks - O.J. Mayo 18. Nuggets - DeAndre Jordan 19. Bulls - Omer Asik 20. Clippers - Andre Iguodala 21. Timberwolves - Danny Granger 22. Spurs - Joe Johnson 23. Wizards - Kawhi Leonard 24. Warriors - Zach Randolph 25. Thunder - Danilo Gallinari 26. Rockets - Tyreke Evans 27. Grizzlies - Demar Derozan 28. Magic - Amare Stoudemire 29. Pistons - Andrew Bogut 30. Bobcats - Pau Gasol *I'm going to go ahead and post a round 3 mock draft so the first trio of each team can be seen.* Round 3 Mock Draft 1. Bobcats - Anderson Varejao (Lebron James, Pau Gasol, Anderson Varejao) 2. Pistons - Paul Millsap (Kevin Durant, Paul Millsap, Andrew Bogut) 3. Magic - Marcin Gortat (Derrick Rose, Amare Stoudemire, Marcin Gortat) 4. Grizzlies - Dirk Nowitzki (Demar Derozan, Dirk Nowiztki, Dwight Howard) 5. Rockets - Andre Drummond (Kyrie Irving, Tyreke Evans, Andre Drummond) 6. Thunder - Nikola Vucevic (Russell Westbrook, Danilo Gallinari, Nikola Vucevic) 7. Warriors - Paul Pierce (Chris Paul, Paul Pierce, Zach Randolph) 8. Wizards - Nikola Pecovic (Kobe Bryant, Kawhi Leonard, Nikola Pecovic) 9. Spurs - Evan Turner (Joe Johnson, Evan Turner, Andrew Bynum) 10. Timberwolves - Nene (Dwyane Wade, Danny Granger, Nene) 11. Clippers - Nicolas Batum (Andre Iguodala, Nicolas Batum, Blake Griffin) 12. Bulls - David Lee (James Harden, David Lee, Omer Asik) 13. Nuggets - Kemba Walker (Kemba Walker, Kevin Love, DeAndre Jordan) 14. Hawks - Larry Sanders (Rajon Rondo, O.J. Mayo, Larry Sanders) 15. Suns - Kyle Lowry (Kyle Lowry, Carmelo Anthony, Tyson Chandler) 16. Hornets - Kendrick Perkins (Deron Williams, Al Horford, Kendrick Perkins) 17. Kings - Harrison Barnes (Harrison Barnes, Anthony Davis, Kevin Garnett) 18. Knicks - Goran Dragic (Goran Dragic, Tim Duncan, Demarcus Cousins) 19. Mavericks - Enes Kanter (Steph Curry, Luol Deng, Enes Kanter) 20. Jazz - Kenneth Faried (Eric Gordon, Kenneth Faried, Greg Monroe) 21. Heat - Jonas Valanciunas (Ty Lawson, Paul George, Jonas Valanciunas) 22. 76ers - Javale Mcgee (Jrue Holiday, Serge Ibaka, Javale Mcgee) 23. Celtics - Gerald Wallace (John Wall, Gerald Wallace, Chris Bosh) 24. Raptors - Steve Nash (Steve Nash, Rudy Gay, Roy Hibbert) 25. Pacers - Tristan Thompson (Damian Lillard, Tristan Thompson, Al Jefferson) 26. Bucks - Mike Conley (Mike Conley, MKG, Lamarcus Aldridge) 27. Nets - Derrick Favors (Monta Ellis, Derrick Favors, Joakim Noah) 28. Cavaliers - Chandler Parsons (Ricky Rubio, Chandler Parsons, Brook Lopez) 29. Lakers - Klay Thompson (Brandon Jennings, Klay Thompson, Marc Gasol) 30. Trail Blazers - Chris Kaman (Tony Parker, Josh Smith, Chris Kaman) Feedback Please!

The Bulls draft strategy seems wonky. Taking Asik before McGee and Gortat?

Players like Kaman and Gerald Wallace are past their prime and shouldn't be in the first three rounds. Neither are worth the spots there that youth can be selected in.

My thoughts.

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Quote: Originally Posted by trekfan

The Bulls draft strategy seems wonky. Taking Asik before McGee and Gortat? Players like Kaman and Gerald Wallace are past their prime and shouldn't be in the first three rounds. Neither are worth the spots there that youth can be selected in. My thoughts.

Agreed I look into it. I didn't see Javale Mcgee because he was listed as a PF on these rosters, and as for Gortat, Asik is younger so that's why he's before Gortat.

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Official Round 2

1. Trail Blazers - Tony Parker

2. Lakers - Brandon Jennings

3. Cavaliers - Ricky Rubio

4. Nets - Joakim Noah

5. Bucks - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

6. Pacers - Serge Ibaka

7. Raptors - Al Jefferson

8. Celtics - Chris Bosh

9. 76ers - Roy Hibbert

10. Heat - Ty Lawson

11. Jazz - Eric Gordon

12. Mavericks - Andre Iguodala

13. Knicks - Al Horford

14. Kings - Luol Deng

15. Hornets - Danny Granger

16. Suns - Tyson Chandler

17. Hawks - Amare Stoudemire

18. Nuggets - DeAndre Jordan

19. Bulls - Andre Drummond

20. Clippers - Tyreke Evans

21. Timberwolves - Zach Randolph

22. Spurs - Tim Duncan

23. Wizards - Kawhi Leonard

24. Warriors - O.J. Mayo

25. Thunder - Danilo Gallinari

26. Rockets - Demar Derozan

27. Grizzlies - Paul Millsap

28. Magic - Nicolas Batum

29. Pistons - Andrew Bogut

30. Bobcats - Pau Gasol

Official Round 3

1. Bobcats - Anderson Varejao

2. Pistons - Evan Turner

3. Magic - Omer Asik

4. Grizzlies - Joe Johnson

5. Rockets - Nikola Vucevic

6. Thunder - Jonas Valanciunas

7. Warriors - Marcin Gortat

8. Wizards - David Lee

9. Spurs - Kyle Lowry

10. Timberwolves - Nikola Pecovic

11. Clippers - Larry Sanders

12. Bulls - Kevin Garnett

13. Nuggets - Kemba Walker

14. Hawks - Paul Pierce

15. Suns - Arron Afflalo

16. Hornets - Enes Kanter

17. Kings - Goran Dragic

18. Knicks - Eric Bledsoe

19. Mavericks - Derrick Favors

20. Jazz - Harrison Barnes

21. Heat - Javale Mcgee

22. 76ers - Bradley Beal

23. Celtics - Nene

24. Raptors - Brandon Knight

25. Pacers - Klay Thompson

26. Bucks - Mike Conley

27. Nets - Dirk Nowitzki

28. Cavaliers - Gordon Hayward

29. Lakers - Kenneth Faried

30. Trail Blazers - Greg Oden