Home

2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

This is a discussion on 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread within the College Basketball forums.

Go Back   Operation Sports Forums > Basketball > College Basketball
MLB The Show 24 Review: Another Solid Hit for the Series
New Star GP Review: Old-School Arcade Fun
Where Are Our College Basketball Video Game Rumors?
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-27-2010, 11:42 AM   #609
MVP
 
Koolie G's Arena
 
OVR: 13
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Big Blue Nation
Posts: 1,813
Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZM Punk
Its all one big coincidence.
No need for it to be a coincidence. Jones was undecided, Kenny Payne had recruited him at Oregon but he wasn't considereing Oregon anymore but Jones liked Kenny Payne. Kentucky had been the rumored destination of Payne LONG before the Jones flip-flop. Did Payne coming to UK influence Jones? I don't know but Im sure it didn't hurt. The fact is UK & Kenny Payne were linked maybe even before the season was over & possibly last summer, but I could be mistaken about that time period. In short, Payne was not offered the job solely to obtain the commitment from T. Jones.
Koolie G is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2010, 12:41 PM   #610
Post Like a Champion!
 
jake44np's Arena
 
OVR: 22
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: The Burg, Indiana
Posts: 9,532
Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Koolie G
No need for it to be a coincidence. Jones was undecided, Kenny Payne had recruited him at Oregon but he wasn't considereing Oregon anymore but Jones liked Kenny Payne. Kentucky had been the rumored destination of Payne LONG before the Jones flip-flop. Did Payne coming to UK influence Jones? I don't know but Im sure it didn't hurt. The fact is UK & Kenny Payne were linked maybe even before the season was over & possibly last summer, but I could be mistaken about that time period. In short, Payne was not offered the job solely to obtain the commitment from T. Jones.
Right.
Just like Cal didnt hire Milt Wagner to be an assisant at Memphis to get his son.
And dont get me wrong it is just not Cal who does this, alot of coaches hire guys purely to get recruits.
__________________
ND Season Ticket Holder since '72.
jake44np is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2010, 06:35 PM   #611
MVP
 
PhantomPain's Arena
 
OVR: 16
Join Date: Jan 2003
Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by jake44np
Right.
Just like Cal didnt hire Milt Wagner to be an assisant at Memphis to get his son.
And dont get me wrong it is just not Cal who does this, alot of coaches hire guys purely to get recruits.
Kenny Payne is one of the best recruiters in the country. Getting him aboard really didn't have anything to do with Jones except for the timing of it. Many sources had Jones coming to UK prior to the crazy announcement. Jones buckled under pressure and then called Cal to tell him he made a mistake.

Cal AT UK doesn't need Kenny Payne to do well. Payne and Jones have a relationship so again, it didn't hurt. But I think Jones to UK happens regardless of Payne. You're right though, it happens all the time. But you don't hire an assistant, one that would be your top recruiter that will get paid a ton of money, for one kid that will probably only play for one year. Cal had the second straight year of #1 class before Jones commitment, he is obviously very good at it.
__________________
#WeAreUK
PhantomPain is offline  
Reply With Quote
Advertisements - Register to remove
Old 08-19-2010, 08:56 PM   #612
Champs
 
Husker_OS's Arena
 
OVR: 39
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 21,459
Blog Entries: 2
Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Husker_OS
It'll be interesting to see if he qualifies. Most everyone backed off him due to grade issues.


As predicted, Luke Cothron is ineligible for the upcoming season.
__________________
Twitter


Alabama National Championships

1925-1926-1930-1934-1945-1961-1964-1965-1966-1978-1979-1992-2009-2011-2012-2015




"Fight on, fight on, fight on men! Remember the Rose Bowl, we'll win then..."
Husker_OS is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2010, 09:45 PM   #613
All Star
 
DakkoN's Arena
 
OVR: 37
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: London, KY
Posts: 5,623
Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

There are so many players that were linked to Kentucky under Billy Gillispie that are turning up ineligible. It's almost ridiculous how many of them have been declared ineligible. It makes me sad to think how horrible of a team we would of had last year and this year under Gillispie.
__________________
PSN: UK2K_Ch33k0
XBL: Ch33k0
Twitch: http://www.twitch.tv/Ch33k0
DakkoN is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2010, 08:23 PM   #614
MVP
 
wildcatchild's Arena
 
OVR: 13
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Lexington
Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by DakkoN
There are so many players that were linked to Kentucky under Billy Gillispie that are turning up ineligible. It's almost ridiculous how many of them have been declared ineligible. It makes me sad to think how horrible of a team we would of had last year and this year under Gillispie.

Yeah, it was if BG and his assistants would rent a room at Malone's and start throwing darts at a recruiting board after a few drinks...and then he'd offer whoever the darts hit. His recruiting strategy made zero sense. UK fans all tried to brainwash themselves into thinking he saw something we didn't. In the end, this was only half true - he saw stars like we did, only the stars he saw were the inebriated kind of stars that he mistakened for stud basketball recruits.
__________________
"He who controlleths the backboard, controlleths the game." - Adolph Rupp
wildcatchild is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2010, 09:27 PM   #615
All Star
 
DakkoN's Arena
 
OVR: 37
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: London, KY
Posts: 5,623
Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

Quote:
Kentucky needs Enes Kanter this year. On a team that is much more well-suited to Calipari’s normal Dribble-Drive Offense than last year’s group, there is nevertheless a gaping hole. As was shown in Canada, Kentucky needs a dominating post presence, who can score from the block and allow UK’s outside shooters and penetrators to create space and dish more effectively. Enes Kanter is that guy. With his amazing footwork down low, his NBA body and an ability to hit the boards as well as anyone that will play college basketball next season, Enes Kanter is set to be a star and (as Calipari said during practice two weeks ago) “the best player on the floor” in nearly every game he plays this season. But first, he has to get eligible, and as of this writing, there has been very little movement on the Kanter eligibility front. The mystery as to why Enes has yet to be cleared by the NCAA is one that has led to worry from the fans and is a growing concern for the folks at UK. And the problem is, that it isnt clear how the core issue in question can be easily remedied.

Over the past week, I spoke with a number of sources around the program, all of whom tell the same story. The issue with Enes Kanter is one of amateur eligibility, specifically whether he received benefits while playing for a Turkish professional team that would render him ineligible to be classified as an Amateur. That is the rules problem, but the practical problem for UK is much more of an issue. The Turkish team where Kanter played and the Turkish Federation are offering no help to UK in its attempt to get Kanter eligible. The NCAA now allows for players who were on professional teams in Europe to play college basketball, so long as they were paid solely in expenses, and not in salary. Thus what the NCAA and the University of Kentucky need in order to prove eligibility, is proof of exactly how and in what form, Kanter was compensated. Did he just get living expenses, similar as to what happens at American prep schools…or was he given a salary like a full-time professional player? That question determines whether Kanter can qualify under the new rule.

However as might could be expected, only one entity has that information…Kanter’s former Turkish team. Kanter was a seldom-used reserve for the team Fenerbahce Ulker. As is the custom in Turkey, young players are signed to deals, as early as age 15 and then if they reach success, play for the professional club and are then given professional salaries when they get older (usually age 17-20). This system works in Turkey and is the method for the production of young college basketball players, instead of the American college system. The Turkish Federation wants Kanter back and has no interest in helping make Enes eligible to play American college basketball. In fact, they have the exact opposite interest. What Calipari is attempting with Kanter could have long term implications for college and European basketball. If he can bring Kanter to America, make him a Top 5 pick in one year, then the theory goes that other Europeans will follow suit at Kentucky and other American Universities. This can only hurt the European basketball leagues, who have benefitted from having young players who NBA teams want, and potentially will have to buy out of their contracts.

Thus with no incentive to help the NCAA, Kentucky, Kanter or basically anyone not in Turkey, the Turkish Federation is stalling and UK/Kanter are suffering the consequences. UK and Kanter have done all they can. They have given all the information they have and are hoping for a decision. But the NCAA wants records of what was given to Kanter by the Turkish team. If that doesnt come, it is unclear what the NCAA will do. Will they deem Kanter eligible and say all is good? Will they make him eligible, but with the understanding that if salary payments are discovered later, UK could be ineligible (making UK have to put a lot of trust in Kanter)? Or will they deem him ineligible because there is not enough proof to say one way or the other? IF the NCAA makes the last choice, then teams in Europe will have a path to be able to keep their young players from coming to America…simply dont cooperate with the NCAA or college institutions. One would think that isnt the precedent the NCAA would want, but with that institution, who knows.

So now UK and Kanter are in a holding pattern…attempting to get info from a source that doesnt want to give it. How this finally plays out will likely determine just how good Kentucky can be this coming season.
http://kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=58674
__________________
PSN: UK2K_Ch33k0
XBL: Ch33k0
Twitch: http://www.twitch.tv/Ch33k0
DakkoN is offline  
Reply With Quote
Advertisements - Register to remove
Old 08-24-2010, 10:31 PM   #616
MVP
 
wildcatchild's Arena
 
OVR: 13
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Lexington
Re: 2010 Recruiting Discussion Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by DakkoN
No Kanter = no shot at Houston. Simple as that.
__________________
"He who controlleths the backboard, controlleths the game." - Adolph Rupp
wildcatchild is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply


« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

« Operation Sports Forums > Basketball > College Basketball »


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:16 PM.
Top -