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Old 02-01-2012, 10:40 PM   #1449
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OLB Seth Jacobs to Oklahoma State. Best of luck to him.
How does CU's class look? What's the feeling around Boulder.
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Old 02-01-2012, 10:43 PM   #1450
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Feel really good about the UCLA class, especially considering the coaching change and how everything could have fallen apart. Just saw on Fox Sports West, and they're highly ranked, by Scout. I'm no'recruiting expert', but Mora really saved the class.
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Feel really good about the UCLA class, especially considering the coaching change and how everything could have fallen apart. Just saw on Fox Sports West, and they're highly ranked, by Scout. I'm no'recruiting expert', but Mora really saved the class.
He was a good hire, and I think he will be a very good recruiter. I believe the college game will suit him.
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Look st Boise or Wisconsin.

Notre Dame had like 5 top 5 classes in a row, but their overall talent never changed.
A lot of it is development, too. Wisconsin's trademark is offensive linemen, but they rarely get the top guys from around the country. However, once those guys come in they blow up. O-linemen are the hardest to predict because they usually have a lot of growing to do even after they get to college.

But there are a number of guys the recruiting services hit. I know Phil Steele has some sort of way that he averages all the rankings and guys that come out highly across the board make it to the NFL with a very high frequency. But yeah, I used to think development didn't matter much, but I've really changed my opinion there.

Of course, I'm not going to say that recruiting doesn't matter. Notre Dame has some good players, particularly on the O-line, but their abysmal quarterback play and turnovers from last season destroyed them.
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A lot of it is development, too. Wisconsin's trademark is offensive linemen, but they rarely get the top guys from around the country. However, once those guys come in they blow up. O-linemen are the hardest to predict because they usually have a lot of growing to do even after they get to college.

But there are a number of guys the recruiting services hit. I know Phil Steele has some sort of way that he averages all the rankings and guys that come out highly across the board make it to the NFL with a very high frequency. But yeah, I used to think development didn't matter much, but I've really changed my opinion there.

Of course, I'm not going to say that recruiting doesn't matter. Notre Dame has some good players, particularly on the O-line, but their abysmal quarterback play and turnovers from last season destroyed them.
Brian Kelly being an awful game manager didnt help either. Notre Dame has really lacked talent despite their recruit rankings.
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How does CU's class look? What's the feeling around Boulder.
Pretty good for a team that was 3-10. Signed 28 guys and I believe 9 were on defensive line. We had a lot of guys from state of Colorado go else where, which is a negative. Completely whiffed on the OL, a position of need. Also couldn't find a TE that could start from day 1, being second place to Taylor McNamara(OU commit) and Jalen Cope-Fitzpatrick (USC commit) sucked as well.

There's some guys I like that I felt underrated by the scouting services, but that could also be the homer in me. Embree is putting a lot of emphasis recruiting in Cali, Texas, Colorado, and the D.C area.

I hope next year, we win a lot of more battles with other Pac-12 schools for some recruits. I believe Embree can do that.

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Matt Kalil was ranked 73rd overall in the 2008 ESPNU 150....he's probably going to be the second pick in the draft....

Tyron Smith was 127 in the same class ....
I don't think it's fair to criticize recruiting services in that way. There is no way to say exactly how an athlete will progress, develop, mature over the 3-5 years he's in college. You're ripping a service for rating a guy as the 73rd overall prospect in the country when he was 17 or 18, and now he's a possible NFL Top 10 pick so that's a failure on their part? It's not like they had him rated as a 2*.
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Pretty good for a team that was 3-10. Signed 28 guys and I believe 9 were on defensive line. We had a lot of guys from state of Colorado go else where, which is a negative. Completely whiffed on the OL, a position of need. Also couldn't find a TE that could start from day 1, being second place to Taylor McNamara(OU commit) and Jaden Cope-Fitzpatrick (USC commit) sucked as well.

There's some guys I like that I felt underrated by the scouting services, but that could also be the homer in me. Embree is putting a lot of emphasis recruiting in Cali, Texas, Colorado, and the D.C area.

I hope next year, we win a lot of more battles with other Pac-12 schools for some recruits. I believe Embree can do that.
When CU's been really good, it's been when they had a lot of success in California. I hope they get things turned in the right direction.
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