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Old 02-02-2012, 04:41 PM   #1505
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What did Pete Carroll do to be brought up in this conversation? Not trying to start anything but confused why he was brought up.
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Old 02-02-2012, 04:57 PM   #1506
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What happened with Philon was unfortunate. I get that. But to be clear, he was not told that he didn't have a place at Bama, he was just asked to delay his enrollment for a few months. He was not left out in the cold with no place to go. The timing could have been better, but that's just the way it is. He declined the offer but at least he still ended up at a decent school. He's still getting a free education with an opportunity to play big time college ball.

That said, it's not like I'm going to vilify Saban for it. I'm not going to call for his head or anything. It's the nature of this business and his job as coach is to bring in the best players that he thinks gives his team the best chances for success. Philon, with the gray-shirt offer was still a part of that plan, but he chose to go elsewhere in the end and I wish him well. The same goes for Taylor.

Whenever a kid verbals to a school, people are always quick to say how it means nothing because that kid can choose to go in a another direction at anytime before he sends that binding LOI in. Well, it goes both ways. Coaches have the right to tell kids "Hey, we're going to go another way on this." You may not like the ethics of it all but like I said, it's the nature of the business. There is no spin required, it is what it is.

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LOL. Have you seen who coaches Ohio State these days?

Yeah, the guy who saw what Saban was building over in Tuscaloosa who knew his heart wouldn't be up for that battle and quit.
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Old 02-02-2012, 05:05 PM   #1507
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Everything in your savings account, lol. Talking some high finance there.

LOL. So Saban is a role model and Carol did it the wrong way? Ok. Best coach of the BCS era, anyone would trade coaches etc. Please stop.

As far as off the field helping of the City, no one did more for his city than Pete Carroll.

I know it's Husker so this sort of hyperbole should be expected, but damn.

As someone else said, delayed entry and greyshirting happen, but there's a right way and a wrong way.
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It's not just Auburn fans.

Greyshirting is fine if you make it clear to the recruit when an offer is extended or when he commits, not on signing day or a month before it. It shouldn't come to the point where Saban's blatant oversigning means some kids get screwed over.
Accurate on both counts.
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LOL. Have you seen who coaches Ohio State these days?


The guy who never scored a touchdown in Tuscaloosa in 8 quarters? Or the guy who retired to be with his family only to come out of retirement less than 2 years later?


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What happened with Philon was unfortunate. I get that. But to be clear, he was not told that he didn't have a place at Bama, he was just asked to delay his enrollment for a few months. He was not left out in the cold with no place to go. The timing could have been better, but that's just the way it is. He declined the offer but at least he still ended up at a decent school. He's still getting a free education with an opportunity to play big time college ball.

That said, it's not like I'm going to vilify Saban for it. I'm not going to call for his head or anything. It's the nature of this business and his job as coach is to bring in the best players that he thinks gives his team the best chances for success. Philon, with the gray-shirt offer was still a part of that plan, but he chose to go elsewhere in the end and I wish him well. The same goes for Taylor.

Whenever a kid verbals to a school, people are always quick to say how it means nothing because that kid can choose to go in a another direction at anytime before he sends that binding LOI in. Well, it goes both ways. Coaches have the right to tell kids "Hey, we're going to go another way on this." You may not like the ethics of it all but like I said, it's the nature of the business. There is no spin required, it is what it is.
I see your point, but this is pretty borderline sketchy. It's another example of many, (not just at Alabama) of how college football has gotten away from what it truly should be about.

If I want cut throat tactics where you can cut players at any time, and it's all about business I can watch the NFL. I realize this is big money for the schools, but there's a line and I think it's being crossed far to often.
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99% of people don't give a **** about these pissing matches you guys have. I just want to read RECRUITING 2012. Can we please get back to it? Good God troll someplace else.
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