The Big 12 is a disaster

[BigDofBA]

I'm all for a conference championship game but not with 10 teams. That means every championship game is going to be a rematch. Two divisions of five teams and a championship game that will be a rematch just doesn't make sense to me.

To survive the Big 12 needs to add two legit universities and expand back to 12 teams. With that said, there aren't really any teams out there that I see they could add.

I'm so ready for OU to get out of this league. I wish they would have been able to move to the Pac-12 a few years ago.

[TripleCrown9]

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The Big 12 almost made y'all lose Baker.

[TheVinylHippo]

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I'm all for a conference championship game but not with 10 teams. That means every championship game is going to be a rematch. Two divisions of five teams and a championship game that will be a rematch just doesn't make sense to me.

To survive the Big 12 needs to add two legit universities and expand back to 12 teams. With that said, there aren't really any teams out there that I see they could add.

I'm so ready for OU to get out of this league. I wish they would have been able to move to the Pac-12 a few years ago.

As a Texas fan, I agree on the Pac-12 move. That was a prime opportunity. I thought we should've left then and I still do. Our administration has mucked up a lot of situations.

[countryboy]

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Has there been anymore discussion on expansion?

[Brandwin]

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I agree, but at least Baylor is good now and could arguably be considered the best football program in Texas. So if the Big 12 dissolves, they should be in a good spot, oh wait...

[Speedy]

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As a Texas fan, I agree on the Pac-12 move. That was a prime opportunity. I thought we should've left then and I still do. Our administration has mucked up a lot of situations.

Didn't the creation of the Longhorn Network start the exodus of teams to the SEC/Pac-10?

[NYJets]

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Has there been anymore discussion on expansion?

A lot of talk, doesn't sound like much progress.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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Has there been anymore discussion on expansion?

I've heard Houston & Memphis are in the mix, & UCF as a third option.

But the I can definitely agree the Big 12 is a disaster. It's so bad I could see how some fans might pine for the days of the old SWC. Which is like hearing my grandad talk about the good old days in the 1930's, & then realising we were in the midst of The Great Depression lol

[countryboy]

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I've heard Houston & Memphis are in the mix, & UCF as a third option.

But the I can definitely agree the Big 12 is a disaster. It's so bad I could see how some fans might pine for the days of the old SWC. Which is like hearing my grandad talk about the good old days in the 1930's, & then realising we were in the midst of The Great Depression lol

I think they need to grab a travel partner for West Virginia.

I'm surprised they aren't looking to expand by more than 2 teams, and get up to 14.

[JayhawkerStL]

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The Big 12 screwed up when they didn't grab Louisville when they had the chance. Had they done that, they would be in a far better position to pick up teams, including from the ACC.

But the Big 12 assumed Louisville would always be there and tried luring FSU and Clemson first. That backfired when the ACC grabbed Louisville and locked up FSU and Clemson with the Grant of rights deal.

There just aren't good options to expand. But really, they don't need to. Each Big 12 school is getting paid similar similar sums t what the SEC schools are getting. It's less money overall, but it is fewer schools sharing it.

The SEC has diluted itself into becoming less and less must see football. Mizzou sees Alabama come to Columbia once every TWELVE YEARS. That is a joke. Fourteen team leagues are horrible for scheduling.

I do agree that the Big 12 should not do the championship game. They have a round robin schedule now. There rare great games between great teams every week.

The first year of the playoffs, when the Big 12 got shut out, they were also damn close to getting two teams in. Things didn't go their way, but it wasn't a lack of a championship game, the same way it didn't hurt them last season.

I think the Big 12 should just stay at 10, and forget the championship game. Schools are getting paid, and there are great schedules. And basketball is even better.

[NYJets]

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Nobody really knows, every "source" says something different, but if expansion happens, sounds to me like Cincy is closest to being a definite, and then UConn, BYU, Houston the main schools being talked about to get them to 12, and Memphis and UCF also getting mentioned but seem less likely.

But all the schools have different priorities as far as whether they even want expansion, and what schools they'd prefer, so really anything can happen.

[TracerBullet]

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Nobody really knows, every "source" says something different, but if expansion happens, sounds to me like Cincy is closest to being a definite, and then UConn, BYU, Houston the main schools being talked about to get them to 12, and Memphis and UCF also getting mentioned but seem less likely.

But all the schools have different priorities as far as whether they even want expansion, and what schools they'd prefer, so really anything can happen.

Yep. I've seen someone mention UConn as the top preference with Cincy second and UCF as the third option. And Memphis seemed like a lock not long ago.

[LastExit]

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As a Texas fan, I agree on the Pac-12 move. That was a prime opportunity. I thought we should've left then and I still do. Our administration has mucked up a lot of situations.

Texas was not willing to give up the Longhorn network...that is what doomed the move a few years ago.

If anything Texas will become an independent like Notre Dame which has it's own TV deal. Texas will only go to another conference if they are willing to give up the LHN. This is what is keeping the Big 12 from having it's own network right now.

[LastExit]

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Yep. I've seen someone mention UConn as the top preference with Cincy second and UCF as the third option. And Memphis seemed like a lock not long ago.

I don't see UConn getting an invite - they would be a nice addition for basketball but they haven't shown the commitment to their football program that the conference would want. Houston or BYU has a better shot. Besides, if the rest of the conference thinks WVU is out on an island wait until they would have to travel to Storrs.

[ZB9]

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Didn't the creation of the Longhorn Network start the exodus of teams to the SEC/Pac-10?

There were a few factors.

The main factor was probably money. TAMU and Mizzou made more money when they moved to the SEC. The aggys will probably be the perpetual doormat in the SEC west but at least they will make more money.