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Old 11-05-2018, 07:57 PM   #137
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One. They had defeated one FBS team with a winning record. A team they surrendered 40 points to in Week 10. Is it too late to include UCF on the Stanley Cup as well? I mean, I know they're already adding their name to the Lombardi Trophy recipients list, but surely they've earned it on the Stanley Cup, too, no?

I’m not arguing your overall point, was just pointing that out.
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:22 AM   #138
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My biggest gripe is how we group every conference under the bowl subdivision (D1), but there isn't a system in place for everyone to carve their own path to the playoff. If you're UCF and competing for kids interested in FSU, UF, Miami, etc. and you can't look them in the eye and tell them that they will have the same shot at playing for a national championship because the system won't allow it then it's broke and something needs to change.
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Old 11-06-2018, 01:50 PM   #139
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My biggest gripe is how we group every conference under the bowl subdivision (D1), but there isn't a system in place for everyone to carve their own path to the playoff. If you're UCF and competing for kids interested in FSU, UF, Miami, etc. and you can't look them in the eye and tell them that they will have the same shot at playing for a national championship because the system won't allow it then it's broke and something needs to change.
I'm all for UCF, Boise State, Coastal Carolina, Bob's College, whomever having a shot at the CFP, but you have to prove your case by playing better competition. Granted, non-P5 schools have their own conference games bringing down their SoS rankings, but play some neutral site games or go to the Big House in Michigan and pull another upset like App State. Is it a challenge? Sure, but no more so than an Alabama, Ohio State or Michigan, who play tougher competition. Notre Dame is an Independent, beholden to no conference schedule, and they play some of the toughest teams in the nation; nothing is stopping UCF from going Independent and improving their scheduling.

UCF claims they have a tough time scheduling P5 schools, yet they booked Pitt and North Carolina in 2018 (North Carolina game postponed), they booked Georgia Tech (cancelled and never made up) last season, and they have Stanford and Pitt booked for 2019. They also booked Florida A&M, a FCS team, which I have no problem with, cause they secured an away game with Stanford. That's a good get in my book. In 2020, they have North Carolina (at home) and Georgia Tech (away) again, so they're getting P5 schools. Sure, neither Georgia Tech or North Carolina are stellar football programs, but if UCF beats them, then it helps their case.

In 2013, UCF finished 12 - 1, with a victory over unranked Penn State (at Penn State), but with a loss to ranked South Carolina (a home game for UCF). They defeated 6th ranked Baylor in the bowl game. Great season, for sure, but if we were to apply that season and that schedule to this year's CFP conversation, they wouldn't be in the mix. Sure, they beat a blue blood program like Penn State, on the road, but they also lost, at home, to South Carolina. Both games decided by three points, just FYI. The rest of their schedule is light on real competition. But it shows that UCF has been able to schedule P5 programs, even getting a SEC team to play at their stadium. In 2015, the season they won zero games, they played at Stanford and at South Carolina. In 2016, Scott Frost's first season, they played at Michigan and hosted Maryland, and while Maryland is not a great program, it is a Big Ten school. So I don't buy the argument that UCF can't get P5 teams to play them.
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Old 11-09-2018, 12:46 PM   #140
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Hmmmm... why is Utah State's 7-point loss to Michigan State worse than Ohio State's 29-point loss to Penn State. Well, OSU beat MSU. Why's Utah State's 7-point loss to Michigan State worse than Penn State's 35-point loss to Michigan? (excusing, of course, their one-point loss to Ohio State and four-point loss to MSU)



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The solution has always been obvious: eight-team playoff with spots for each of the Power five champions and three at-large bids with a guarantee for the highest-ranked G5 squad. Fresno's probably better than UCF this year, and Utah State might be, but they're both frozen-out because they're not undefeated. The NY6 might-should include two G5 squads this year, but they'll probably put 10-2 LSU against UCF instead.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:45 AM   #141
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If there is a CFB god, then please make enough teams lose so that Alabama and UCF can meet in the CFB Playoffs.
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Hmmmm... why is Utah State's 7-point loss to Michigan State worse than Ohio State's 29-point loss to Penn State. Well, OSU beat MSU. Why's Utah State's 7-point loss to Michigan State worse than Penn State's 35-point loss to Michigan? (excusing, of course, their one-point loss to Ohio State and four-point loss to MSU)
Who says it is worse? If you're assuming such based upon their current ranking, teams are ranked based upon more than just a single game. Utah State plays a weaker schedule than Ohio State and Michigan; when three teams all share a single loss on their schedule, and you're trying to rank them, you then must look at their entire body of work. Utah State's SoS is currently ranked 72nd per the link below, which is well below Ohio State's 22nd ranking and Michigan's 9th place ranking. Central Florida's is currently at 80th per the same link.

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Old 11-18-2018, 11:54 AM   #143
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UCF has a better resume than OSU, having beat more teams over-500, not losing by 29 to Purdue, and only having one close win.



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Old 11-19-2018, 11:22 AM   #144
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If there is a CFB god, then please make enough teams lose so that Alabama and UCF can meet in the CFB Playoffs.
If this match up happened last year then it might be fun to watch.

This year it would only be fun to watch if you were looking to see some bloodletting.

If you're into that thing just tune in to the 2019 Iron Bowl.

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