OSUPiper's CH2K8 CPUvCPU Experience

[OSUPiper]

Quote: Originally Posted by tarek

Thanks man, I’m having an absolute blast working these sliders and rosters. I went ahead and changed every single coach before my first game, but then started on every player so that when I go into season 2 then 3 then 4 the sophomores and juniors are adjusted too. With standing dunk only edit this for power forwards and centers. Any Center over 7ft I put at 99, 6’10 and 6’11 are 95, and 6’9 6’8 are 90. Why do you say be careful about th standing dunk rating? I don’t edit anyone else’s dunk above 80 unless they are already above 80 and some guards that have dunk at like 40 or 50 I just leave them, specially short guards. Any other tips you can give?

A high Standing Dunk rating actually creates more dunk opportunities, like a tendency rating. This has the effect of creeping FG% up artificially, so that post players are more dominant than they should be.


One of the upsides of these sliders is that big men that should dominate actually do dominate, but otherwise it is a guard/forward driven game. In previous versions, I always struggled to get a power forward to be the go-to guy. In Version 6, I have seen every position on the floor dominate for different teams.

[OSUPiper]

It has been a while since I checked in. I am posting my current working set below.


I am giving up on fixing personal fouls right now. Guards are unfairly punished, especially good/elite guards. The absence of illegal screens, block/charge, and over the back calls means we have to compensate with the Reaching Foul slider. Some of my former slider sets may give decent foul numbers but suffered from shot selection and "look and feel" of real college basketball. I prefer to post all of my iterations (with notes) so you guys can pick your own poison.


If I just cannot deal with foul numbers, I can always resort to edits. I predict I would edit PF and C positions to '99' Foul ratings to start. I am not excited about that prospect.


Here is my current set (beta):

GAMEPLAY		RULES
Mode	Sim	Shot Clock	ON
Difficulty	MOP	OOB	ON
Half Lngth	18	Backcourt	ON
Sim Half	19	10 secs	ON
Game Spd	41	5 secs	ON
Plyr Spd	30	3 secs	ON
FT Diff	100	5 guarded	OFF
Plyr Lock	OFF	Goaltend	ON
Real FT%	ON	Bonus 1+1	7 fouls
Fatigue	ON	Dbl Bonus	10 fouls
Injuries	OFF	Foul out	5 fouls
Tm Unity	ON	Charging	100
6th Man	ON	Blocking	100
Clutch	ON	Reaching	83
Pass Icon	ON	Shooting Foul	100
Def Plyr Icon	ON	Loose Ball	100
Inbound Def	ON
Shot Stick FT	OFF

SLIDERS
SHOOTING		ATTRIBUTES		GAMEPLAY		FITNESS
IR	42	Off Aw	5	Team Unity	50	Fatigue Rate	52
Mid	41	Def Aw	35	Dunk in Trfc	100	Recvry Rate	61
3pt	46	Dunk	100	Screen Succ	65	Inj Freq	95
Dunk	48	BH	27	Screen Str	90	Inj Effect	25
Layup	34	OR	75	Steal Succ	100
Close tend	0	DR	50	Help D	25
Mid tend	4	Block	100	Help Recovr	79
3pt tend	35	Steal	100
Drive tend	25	Speed	100

Edit each coach Prior to the Game:
- Def Pressure = 90
- Fast Break = 35+n/10 (where n is original Coach rating)
- Crash Boards = 40+n/10
IN GAME
- Take control of each team, set 'Double Team' to "NEVER" for each player.

NOTES
- Team Shot Selection more in line with simmed games, team stats.
- Have seen top scorers from every position except center. Set does favor hot-handed outside shooters.
- Fatigue sliders have moved to balance lack of fouls for rotation purposes
- My last couple of games have had a great feel to them and good moves to the basket. FGAs are trending upward, but this is expected as a result of fewer fouls. Unfortunately, it appears that bigs will again dominate rebounding numbers.
- Offensive Rebounds were too strong, so I evened out rebounding. I want to push the Crash Board setting on pre-game Coach edits to get more players involved in rebounding, which means cutting back Fast Break settings. Work in Progress.

[OSUPiper]

Dropped 3PT TEND to 32
Dropped DRIVE to 24
Raised FATIGUE RATE to 60
Raised RECOVERY RATE to 75

[hockeyturtle85]

Quote: Originally Posted by OSUPiper

Dropped 3PT TEND to 32 Dropped DRIVE to 24 Raised FATIGUE RATE to 60 Raised RECOVERY RATE to 75

Piper...

Do these sliders affect "simulations" or just when you play the game yourself?

I've always been confused.

Thanks!

[OSUPiper]

Pretty certain these are only in-game sliders. I have never noticed any effect on simmed games. Use Sim Half Length to adjust sim stats.

[OSUPiper]

Dropped Reaching Foul to 82
Raised Inside Range to 43
Tendencies are now:
Close 1
Mid 5
3Pt 23
Drive 28


Also, I forgot to mention that I set all offensive playbooks (Coach Settings) to "All Plays" before the game

[OSUPiper]

GAMEPLAY		RULES
Mode	Sim	Shot Clock	ON
Difficulty	MOP	OOB	ON
Half Lngth	19	Backcourt	ON
Sim Half	19	10 secs	ON
Game Spd	42	5 secs	ON
Plyr Spd	32	3 secs	ON
FT Diff	100	5 guarded	OFF
Plyr Lock	OFF	Goaltend	ON
Real FT%	ON	Bonus 1+1	7 fouls
Fatigue	ON	Dbl Bonus	10 fouls
Injuries	OFF	Foul out	5 fouls
Tm Unity	ON	Charging	100
6th Man	ON	Blocking	100
Clutch	ON	Reaching	80
Pass Icon	ON	Shooting Foul	100
Def Plyr Icon	ON	Loose Ball	100
Inbound Def	ON
Shot Stick FT	OFF

SLIDERS
SHOOTING		ATTRIBUTES		GAMEPLAY		FITNESS
IR	44	Off Aw	12	Team Unity	50	Fatigue Rate	60
Mid	45	Def Aw	36	Dunk in Trfc	100	Recvry Rate	75
3pt	47	Dunk	100	Screen Succ	73	Inj Freq	95
Dunk	48	BH	26	Screen Str	82	Inj Effect	25
Layup	36	OR	70	Steal Succ	100
Close tend	24	DR	50	Help D	21
Mid tend	0	Block	100	Help Recovr	80
3pt tend	22	Steal	100
Drive tend	23	Speed	100

Edit each coach Prior to the Game:
- Def Pressure = 90
- Fast Break = 40+(n/2) (where n is original Coach rating)
- Crash Boards = 40+(n/2)
IN GAME
- Take control of each team, set 'Double Team' to "NEVER" for each player.

[DynaGuy]

I've used these as a base for my own coach mode set. Thanks for all the effort on this.