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Old 03-12-2009, 09:14 PM   #41
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Re: Does anyone feel the 360's disc capacity is really limiting sports in general?

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So you're saying they're basically lying because it benefits them?



NBA 09 is the worst possible example. You'd only use that as an example if you've never played it. A terrible game is a terrible game, no matter the platform. They have deeper issues that are beyond the scope of this thread.

The point is, there's a ceiling these developers have. The ceiling is different because of the limitations mentioned in this thread. This isn't my opinion, this is a technological fact.

Madden is a bad game because of those developing it, not because of technological limitations. However, once Madden starts getting better, who is to say they won't hit their limitations faster because of a DVD compared to BR? It's exactly like having a 50 gb thumb drive and 9gb thumb drive. Different access speeds, organization of data and optimizations isn't going get you past the actual size limitation. You will eventually hit a wall much faster with the smaller thumb drive. You will always store what you can based on your limitations.

And sports games are hurting because of it. Limited commentary is just one example due to BR's size. I'm sure the dedicated GPU in the 360 doesn't help multi-platform games on the PS3. Developers turn on AA very simply and then have to make allowances on the PS3. Again, another example where it is a similar difference. Yet, here I was asking simply about disc size.
I see what you are saying. It could be that the disc size does in fact put a governor on the potential of a sports game. Was it Madden 07 or 08 that had all the HOF videos etc. in it? I remember wondering if that's why the menus were so sluggish. I thought that there was just too much in the game. In that case, I was wishing they'd remove that stuff and concentrate on the core of the game and its immediate surroundings.

The same could be said of MLB 2K8. The VIP, Trading Cards etc. just taxed that game. So, you could ask, if that game were made first on the PS3, would the BR's capacity give it more potential? Maybe so.
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:31 PM   #46
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Re: Does anyone feel the 360's disc capacity is really limiting sports in general?

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So you're saying they're basically lying because it benefits them?

Sony does have a direct business interest in BluRay, so to throw the line out there about capacity serves them real well, whether technically true or not. They also have a healthy dose of arrogance in the PS3 platform as to what it should mean for the gaming world, but that doesn't answer your original question.

It's up to the developers to bring out the best in sports games. The space differences in BD and DVD aren't enough to make or break a sports title IMO.
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Re: Does anyone feel the 360's disc capacity is really limiting sports in general?

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Sony does have a direct business interest in BluRay, so to throw the line out there about capacity serves them real well, whether technically true or not. They also have a healthy dose of arrogance in the PS3 platform as to what it should mean for the gaming world, but that doesn't answer your original question.
Sony, not the developers. They create a game with the tools they are given and make their money regardless. You honestly, genuinely think they are pimping BR just because they are employees of Sony? Especially when I didn't ask them the question in this vain? Arrogance is not something that was an issue here.

I saw the amount of commentary, asked about the size of it all and was shown and told how this would not fit on a DVD9 disc. It wasn't like some infomercial where they said, "Throw those 360's out the window; The PS3 and Blu-Ray is all you will ever need!"

The amount of lines in the game is a culmination of about 4 years of work. Why does there have to be some other, underlying intention?

The amount of commentary would not fit on a DVD 9 disc unless you severely lessened the quality of the audio and or found a format container that was not only more optimal in terms of space used, but also compatible with the PS3.

People can doubt what they will; The skepticism is a given. But the only reason I created the thread is because I have cold hard facts to discuss. I can't argue against a person's refusal to believe facts.
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Re: Does anyone feel the 360's disc capacity is really limiting sports in general?

Wait. So you're saying Sony doesn't have a business interest in bluray? I did mention that the point didn't answer your question, which is why in the very next sentence it did (which wasn't quoted). What other "facts" do we have to work with?

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