Quick Pitching

[baseballsim]

I know this has been mentioned before but it doesn't appear balks will be turned on this year. Even when nobody is on base most relief pitchers can still throw you off by pitching quickly.

I know it's part of the game to some extent but there should be some sort of consequence if the pitcher is doing this on every pitch. Maybe control should take a hit if the pitcher doesn't consistently follow a certain cadence.

To counter, I really don't like doing the practice swinging and calling timeout stuff once per at bat. And, first person view rubs people the wrong way.

[Orange Krush]

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To counter, I really don't like doing the practice swinging and calling timeout stuff once per at bat. And, first person view rubs people the wrong way.

This is really all you're going to be able to do to slow people down who are quick pitching you. I do the practice swing thing when I get down to 2 strikes, in the hope that the pitcher will be impatient and still pitch the ball even if he can't see the reticle. Sometimes he misses his spot and I get a good pitch to hit.

Now if he's using a slide step, I don't know about you, but I always lose a lot of control when I slide step. I usually end up hanging my pitches, and I would assume most people would too, so you should be getting something to hit.

[FindingTim]

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I find it really obnoxious, and in return I take my sweet time while on the rubber in order to show them how to play baseball like a gentleman.

[takki]

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I don't really get the issue here. A shut out, double digit strikeout game still takes 45 minutes at the minimum which is way too long.

I hate to be cold but you guys should play offline or online matches against friends if you want to take 15 seconds at the plate between every pitch.

I feel the opposite, it's annoying when you have someone who needs to take a practice swing every pitch. If I notice someone doing this, I'll assume that they feel I'm pitching too fast and I'll slow down for them to be polite. But playing an hour and ten minute game isn't fun.

[baseballsim]

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I don't really get the issue here. A shut out, double digit strikeout game still takes 45 minutes at the minimum which is way too long.

I hate to be cold but you guys should play offline or online matches against friends if you want to take 15 seconds at the plate between every pitch.

I feel the opposite, it's annoying when you have someone who needs to take a practice swing every pitch. If I notice someone doing this, I'll assume that they feel I'm pitching too fast and I'll slow down for them to be polite. But playing an hour and ten minute game isn't fun.

I agree. I don't like guys who practice swing all the time. All I'm asking is 1/2 second pause for a pitcher to choose a pitch and maybe one second to gather themselves before making the pitch or take a slight hit in control.

I get notion on wanting to finish a game fast but some guys out there quick pitch for the main intent on messing up the batter. They don't put much thought in pitch selection or location because they know that if they pitch quickly they can get away with mistakes more time than often.

[Chiefpot]

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Ya I'd definitely want to see pitchers come to a set, turn on balks. And I don't really see a difference in playing two games or one in the same amount of time if they're fun or good games

[nomo17k]

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I don't like taking practice swings constantly, but with so many guys quick pitching with men on base and without balks the game simply kills enjoyment at the very moment things should be fun.

Sad thing is that practice swing doesn't even register half the time unless you "quick practice swing" yourself.

I'm all for reasonable implementations for making game time shorter, but turning off balks is not it. Balk was implemented to slow the online game down exactly in those situations where people exploit the shortcoming, so I don't really understand why it's turned off.

[gameface1324]

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I don't really get the issue here. A shut out, double digit strikeout game still takes 45 minutes at the minimum which is way too long.

I hate to be cold but you guys should play offline or online matches against friends if you want to take 15 seconds at the plate between every pitch.

I feel the opposite, it's annoying when you have someone who needs to take a practice swing every pitch. If I notice someone doing this, I'll assume that they feel I'm pitching too fast and I'll slow down for them to be polite. But playing an hour and ten minute game isn't fun.

Big difference in 15 seconds and what guys are actually doing. Honestly, just take that extra beat or 2 to pitch. It will cost an additional second tops, and doesn't piss off the batter.

[azstdogg]

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And, first person view rubs people the wrong way.

Is that what's going on when, as the pitcher, I suddenly see the game from the batter's view? This has happened in several games and the view is like the batter is shaking his head no. Usually comes after a runner is safe on a steal or similar play. Not sure how guys do that, but it is annoying. Previous games required the player to pause the game, go into replay, and then do this nonsense.

Anyway, quick pitching doesn't bother me as much as the constant practice swings. I thought people did the quick pitch to try to counter runners getting a lead (or they're just impatient) since it's nearly impossible to throw them out. I usually don't do either, but maybe once or twice per game.

[Orange Krush]

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Is that what's going on when, as the pitcher, I suddenly see the game from the batter's view? This has happened in several games and the view is like the batter is shaking his head no. Usually comes after a runner is safe on a steal or similar play. Not sure how guys do that, but it is annoying. Previous games required the player to pause the game, go into replay, and then do this nonsense.

Anyway, quick pitching doesn't bother me as much as the constant practice swings. I thought people did the quick pitch to try to counter runners getting a lead (or they're just impatient) since it's nearly impossible to throw them out. I usually don't do either, but maybe once or twice per game.

You go into first person by pressing R3. People do it to look down the lines to see where the fielders are at, usually to try to bunt. However there are some people that will do it and just spas around shaking in all directions. It's really annoying and I have to look away from it.

[baseballsim]

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Is that what's going on when, as the pitcher, I suddenly see the game from the batter's view? This has happened in several games and the view is like the batter is shaking his head no. Usually comes after a runner is safe on a steal or similar play. Not sure how guys do that, but it is annoying. Previous games required the player to pause the game, go into replay, and then do this nonsense.

Anyway, quick pitching doesn't bother me as much as the constant practice swings. I thought people did the quick pitch to try to counter runners getting a lead (or they're just impatient) since it's nearly impossible to throw them out. I usually don't do either, but maybe once or twice per game.

Exactly. They also use it to "shake their head" in a taunting sort of way like this, lol:

[vc15]

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Exactly. They also use it to "shake their head" in a taunting sort of way like this, lol:

I use it to decoy people into thinking I'm going to bunt.

They usually proceed to bring in their defence

[Whiteboy311kn]

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wow you have got to be kidding me. I am completly guilty of this "quick pitching" some guy wrote me a message telling me to stop(but i have notifications turned off so i didnt see till after the game). WOW!!! are you guys really complaining about this??? i dont see how it affects the hitter?? i HATE it when a pitcher is taking his time pitching, that throwns me off. yes i am impatient like 1 guys said a normal 3-2 game will still take about 45 minutes, i like to get a couple games in a night, not one three hour game played exactly like the mlb. Anyways there are a thousand more issues to this game than "quick pitching" as i just dont see how it effects the hitter AT ALL, where as sitting there taking your time(to pitch) gets me anxious to hit and i will be more likely to swing at crap pitches, so opposite effect for me. KEEP QUICK PITCHING!!

[gameface1324]

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Stop exaggerating, its not 3 hours... and its not 15 seconds between pitches, etc. There is a rythym tho. What you are doing, is balking. Simple as that. The game just doesn't call it like it used to.

[FindingTim]

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wow you have got to be kidding me. I am completly guilty of this "quick pitching" some guy wrote me a message telling me to stop(but i have notifications turned off so i didnt see till after the game). WOW!!! are you guys really complaining about this??? i dont see how it affects the hitter?? i HATE it when a pitcher is taking his time pitching, that throwns me off. yes i am impatient like 1 guys said a normal 3-2 game will still take about 45 minutes, i like to get a couple games in a night, not one three hour game played exactly like the mlb. Anyways there are a thousand more issues to this game than "quick pitching" as i just dont see how it effects the hitter AT ALL, where as sitting there taking your time(to pitch) gets me anxious to hit and i will be more likely to swing at crap pitches, so opposite effect for me. KEEP QUICK PITCHING!!

I can't just "see ball, hit ball" like Pete Rose. Especially when every opponent has Tom Seaver and Max Scherzer firing lasers and dying sliders toward the plate. To hit well, I need a lot of things to be working in sync:
-complete focus
-an approach based on the game situation, the hitter, and a general idea of what the pitcher is trying to do
-a perfect combination of patience and aggression (it sounds like a paradox, I know)

And even so, I can have all those things working in sync-- then guess high fastball and get a high fastball-- and still pop it up the catcher. Baseball is hard, and this game emulates baseball extraordinarily well.

Another classic (cliche'?) baseball quote: "Pitching is timing. Hitting is upsetting the timing."

Quick pitching (synonymous with "balk") is upsetting the timing. But it's upsetting the timing in a manner that is illegal in real baseball, but not in this game. It's at the top of the list of annoying issues in Diamond Dynasty that includes unrealistic stolen base success and flawed suicide squeeze mechanics.

I play to have fun, not to win a virtual simulation at all costs. I am competitive though, and balkers are the bane of my virtual baseball existence. I wish there was a separate lobby for those wanting a more authentic baseball experience, and those wanting to arcade/cheese their way to a high ranking.