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  • CloudCrew1992
    Rookie
    • Apr 2015
    • 158

    #1

    Tax makes no sense at all?

    What is the point of selling high level cards when you lose so much of your profit due to tax. I mean some cards it can be 7-8 thousand stubs..
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  • BlessingSpore72
    MVP
    • Nov 2014
    • 1085

    #2
    Re: Tax makes no sense at all?

    Originally posted by CloudCrew1992
    What is the point of selling high level cards when you lose so much of your profit due to tax. I mean some cards it can be 7-8 thousand stubs..
    I would not buy anyone right now that is that high. There is no way that someone like Trout will be 100k in a month. When i started last year in May, i think he was in the 30-40k range. Maybe he wont go that low but i cant see him staying anywhere close to 100k. And all of these games have tax but it is still easy to flip and make stubs
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    • CloudCrew1992
      Rookie
      • Apr 2015
      • 158

      #3
      Re: Tax makes no sense at all?

      I pulled a Kershaw last night and im gonna list him when the time looks right but the tax just to sell is almost 10K follow that with trying to beat other sellers prices can really add up.
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      • fezchezpez
        Rookie
        • Mar 2009
        • 15

        #4
        Re: Tax makes no sense at all?

        #firstworldproblems

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        • mikeq672
          MVP
          • Mar 2010
          • 1761

          #5
          Re: Tax makes no sense at all?

          Originally posted by BlessingSpore72
          I would not buy anyone right now that is that high. There is no way that someone like Trout will be 100k in a month. When i started last year in May, i think he was in the 30-40k range. Maybe he wont go that low but i cant see him staying anywhere close to 100k. And all of these games have tax but it is still easy to flip and make stubs
          At no point was Trout ever 30-40k last year.

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          • 55
            Banned
            • Mar 2006
            • 20857

            #6
            Re: Tax makes no sense at all?

            Originally posted by mikeq672
            At no point was Trout ever 30-40k last year.
            Cheapest I ever saw Trout sell for last year was in the 70k range and that was while the market was in a crashed state.

            30-40k? Absolutely never.

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            • madden34
              Banned
              • May 2015
              • 49

              #7
              Re: Tax makes no sense at all?

              In like the beginning of this year in Jan, you could get trout for that much, but thats the only time. He was always around 70-90. i sold mine for 89 last year in like June.

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              • jm2054
                MVP
                • Dec 2013
                • 1223

                #8
                Re: Tax makes no sense at all?

                Originally posted by CloudCrew1992
                What is the point of selling high level cards when you lose so much of your profit due to tax. I mean some cards it can be 7-8 thousand stubs..
                There is a point its to balance the market all games have it. Without a tax the market would crash because flipping would be super easy and cards would lose value real quick

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                • rofalk22
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 39

                  #9
                  Re: Tax makes no sense at all?

                  Originally posted by jm2054
                  There is a point its to balance the market all games have it. Without a tax the market would crash because flipping would be super easy and cards would lose value real quick

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                  Correct, Video Game Currency Economics 101. In any 'shared world' or 'shared market' game there are always measures put in to keep things balanced, whether that be currency or crafting materials, etc depending on the type of game. imbalance leads to broken market.

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                  • bucknell39
                    Rookie
                    • May 2008
                    • 31

                    #10
                    Re: Tax makes no sense at all?

                    The problem is they aren't taxing an in-game only currency that you earn. People buy stubs with real money that are used to purchase packs or players. At no point can you cash in your player for real money but somehow they can take part of your money (cash paid for stubs) on every transaction within the marketplace (stub to stub transaction). Personally, it doesn't seem like a fair practice.

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                    • 55
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 20857

                      #11
                      Re: Tax makes no sense at all?

                      Originally posted by bucknell39
                      The problem is they aren't taxing an in-game only currency that you earn. People buy stubs with real money that are used to purchase packs or players. At no point can you cash in your player for real money but somehow they can take part of your money (cash paid for stubs) on every transaction within the marketplace (stub to stub transaction). Personally, it doesn't seem like a fair practice.
                      Then don't buy any stubs.

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                      • rofalk22
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 39

                        #12
                        Re: Tax makes no sense at all?

                        Originally posted by 55
                        Then don't buy any stubs.
                        Lol, the ultimate answer!

                        But seriously, if there was no tax on the market (in terms of stub purchases for DD) your stub purchases with real money would be less valuable because the market would be imbalanced. It's hard to explain because it deals with economics, but the tax is actually good for us market players. The tax is not for SCEA to take and roll around on a bed with.

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                        • elbomberoloco
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 156

                          #13
                          Re: Tax makes no sense at all?

                          For all the "pro" tax theorist:

                          I am new to video game "economics", did not dabble in on line last year. However this year I am enjoying the conquest mode and therefore I am starting to have interest in the market.

                          I do have the following questions :

                          What game market crashed do to not having a "tax" system ?

                          At what point does the tax rate have diminishing returns? It apparently increased from 5 to 10 this year, so is the market acting more stabilized than last year?

                          One thing that no one is addressing is the money supply is infinite I can go and buy 1,000's of stubs right now, which I do not think anyone is addressing when comparing to real economics...although our current Fed is perhaps trying that theory, but that is a completely different ugly discussion...

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                          • bucknell39
                            Rookie
                            • May 2008
                            • 31

                            #14
                            Re: Tax makes no sense at all?

                            Originally posted by rofalk22
                            Lol, the ultimate answer!

                            But seriously, if there was no tax on the market (in terms of stub purchases for DD) your stub purchases with real money would be less valuable because the market would be imbalanced. It's hard to explain because it deals with economics, but the tax is actually good for us market players. The tax is not for SCEA to take and roll around on a bed with.
                            That is both true and false. If I was buying stubs to purchase players then yes you would be correct but if I were buying stubs to purchase packs (flat price) and pulled a rare card then it was actually "more valuable" for me because the prices would be inflated. I completely understand what they are trying to do with the tax. I am just stating that actual money can be allocated to stubs being taxed so when those stubs are pulled from the marketplace it is not just rewards for playing the game and collecting cards it is real currency as well.

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                            • bucknell39
                              Rookie
                              • May 2008
                              • 31

                              #15
                              Re: Tax makes no sense at all?

                              Also, I just want to state that I am thoroughly enjoying the game, especially when DD is working. I am not someone who is complaining and wants their money back.

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