Depth Chart - am I missing something?

[davec53]

I can see a full roster of players on my team when I view them in "Edit Players", but when I go to set my depth chart, those guys aren't there. Now, if I want to sub one of those players in place of someone that IS visible, I can sub from that pool of players, but why would they not just be listed in the depth chart view?

Is there a way to make ALL players visible in the depth chart mode? I thought by allowing it to auto re-order, they'd all show up, but that doesn't do it.

am i missing something?

[DonkeyJote]

Re: Depth Chart - am I missing something?

They're probably redshirted...

[davec53]

Re: Depth Chart - am I missing something?

they don't appear to be redshirted, no.

i was just curious if the depth chart view only allows a certain number of players at each position to be shown, or if it only shows them down to a certain OVR level.

it should normally not make too big a difference, since most of those players won't really see any action, anyway, but if you are using a downloaded roster that only goes 3 deep at a certain position, and you'd like to add a 4th, i don't see a clear way to make that happen.

[HotFudgeDragon]

Re: Depth Chart - am I missing something?

If I'm reading you right, what you're trying to do is say, for example, have 4 QBs listed on your depth chart. The game only lets you go three deep at QB though.

I think you just have to deal with it. If your #1 goes down, then shift everyone up and put your #4 in the #3 spot. But you can't list a 4th string QB. Same goes for all positions.

[davec53]

Re: Depth Chart - am I missing something?

thanks, hotfudge...that's pretty much what i was wondering.

[Buckeyes_Doc]

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Yeah when you're at the depth chart screen hit x like you're going to sub out a player and then it shows more players. I don't like how the depth chart is set up.

[Deegeezy]

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And this my friend's is a major part of the so-called "depth chart glitch." We need more depth chart slots.

[luvtotha9s]

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I've been asking for extra depth chart slots for years.....we need 85 man rosters with 5 deep depth charts...and we need seperate depths, depending on what defense the team runs....ie 4-2-5 needs more safety spots....we should be able to change the defensive scheme right at the depth chart screen as well

[DonkeyJote]

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I've been asking for extra depth chart slots for years.....we need 85 man rosters with 5 deep depth charts...and we need seperate depths, depending on what defense the team runs....ie 4-2-5 needs more safety spots....we should be able to change the defensive scheme right at the depth chart screen as well

85 man rosters isn't going to happen on this gen. That's increasing the rosters by 21%, and they've said they can't do that. More depth chart slots (and maybe an option for more specific depth charts, allowing for x, y, and z receivers, sam and will LB's, NT's, etc) would be great though.

[SeaOfRed75]

Re: Depth Chart - am I missing something?

85 man rosters isn't going to happen on this gen. That's increasing the rosters by 21%, and they've said they can't do that. More depth chart slots (and maybe an option for more specific depth charts, allowing for x, y, and z receivers, sam and will LB's, NT's, etc) would be great though.

Why cant they though? Wouldnt it just be a bigger save file? I call bs on not being able to do it on this gen of consoles. On disc it couldnt be that much. Hell if thats the problem, have "extended" 85 man default rosters (numbers only no names) as part of a tuner pack available on release.

[SeaOfRed75]

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And another thing, for those that say the 70 man roster isnt a problem, bull****. When certain teams are very senior heavy (or even junior heavy as easily as some freaking players go pro early) at certain positions, recruiting and depth can be MAJORLY screwed for some teams. Certain freshman or even sophmores that are believed by EA to not be important are routinely omitted from teams. This can really screw you at positions like WR, OL, or CB where a lot of players play and only so many roster spots are available for.

[osubeavs721]

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Why cant they though? Wouldnt it just be a bigger save file? I call bs on not being able to do it on this gen of consoles. On disc it couldnt be that much. Hell if thats the problem, have "extended" 85 man default rosters (numbers only no names) as part of a tuner pack available on release.

cause thats calling for 1500 extra players to be made. and that takes space

[DonkeyJote]

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Why cant they though? Wouldnt it just be a bigger save file? I call bs on not being able to do it on this gen of consoles. On disc it couldnt be that much. Hell if thats the problem, have "extended" 85 man default rosters (numbers only no names) as part of a tuner pack available on release.

It's not just the save file. For one, it'd have to ship with the disc. For two, you'd have to rewrite the logic of how a cpu manages rosters (though this may not be a bad idea either). You also then have to massively increase the number of incoming recruits. You'd have to add the logic for only being able to dress so many players per game, and have to have a way to manage that, because asking the game to keep track of 30 more players per game is a lot to ask. Adam has said one here before it took a lot for them to get up to 70 players. It might be easier for them to add FCS schools, and I don't see that happening either.

All in all, it's not as simple as just adding the players. That's the problem sometimes on here, people think it should be simple to add things without considering all the other things that would have to be done for it to work.

And another thing, for those that say the 70 man roster isnt a problem, bull****. When certain teams are very senior heavy (or even junior heavy as easily as some freaking players go pro early) at certain positions, recruiting and depth can be MAJORLY screwed for some teams. Certain freshman or even sophmores that are believed by EA to not be important are routinely omitted from teams. This can really screw you at positions like WR, OL, or CB where a lot of players play and only so many roster spots are available for.

I'm not saying it's unimportant. I think it'd be fantastic. I'd love to have the more realistic recruiting, redshirting, and overall roster management this would provide. I'm just saying expecting it any time soon isn't realistic.

cause thats calling for 1500 extra players to be made. and that takes space

That's a big part of it.