Conference Prestige ratings?

[mercalnd]

So now that we know that conference prestige is static, is there any place we can actually see the prestige of each conference?

Last year, the ratings were as follows:

ACC B
Big East B
Big XII B+
BIG10 A
SEC A+
PAC10 B+
CUSA C
MWC C+
MAC D+
WAC C+
Sunbelt D+

I'm mostly interested in knowing the impact of this year's moves.

[mre]

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I'd like to know this too.

[Redacted01]

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I asked this in one thread and never got a reply. Maybe we'll see something. It is a bit important for making sure I like my setups for certain years.

[pioTROFFski]

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I wouldn't mind knowing. but I imagine the rankings would look something like this:

ACC B+ (didn't help their case much last year, but changes in the Big 12 and Pac 10 leave a void at the B+ rating)
Big East B (or maybe B-, since TCU won't be joining until 2012. I doubt any BCS automatic qualifier would fall to B- though)
Big XII B (no Nebraska, Colorado, or championsihp game; large amount of uncertainty)
BIG10 A+ (addition of Nebraska and a championship game, plus emerging contenders in Iowa, Wisconsin, and Michigan State)
SEC A+ (no changes here)
PAC10 A- (added championship game but the added programs aren't particularly prestigious. But the conference seems to no longer be a USC monopoly)
CUSA C
MWC B- (Boise State and others join, and TCU still remains for now)
MAC C- (seemed to take a small step forward this season)
WAC D (essentially demolished)
Sunbelt D+

[buckeye02]

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So the confernece prestige can't change no matter what? Even if we don't move teams? Say im in 2030.....are the conference letter grade going to be the same?

[pioTROFFski]

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So the confernece prestige can't change no matter what? Even if we don't move teams? Say im in 2030.....are the conference letter grade going to be the same?

Yup.

Your school's academic prestige will change though.... as if that makes sense.

[Redacted01]

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So the confernece prestige can't change no matter what? Even if we don't move teams? Say im in 2030.....are the conference letter grade going to be the same?

It only affects recruiting and I doubt it is a make-or-break pitch. If I'm Oklahoma in the Sun Belt, I highly doubt someone turns me down because I'm in the Sun Belt. It's just there to be there, I'm hoping.

[buckeye02]

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Yup.

Your school's academic will change though.... as if that makes sense.

What about any other pitches? Like program prestige?

I bet the BIG is still an A instead of an A+

[pioTROFFski]

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What about any other pitches? Like program prestige?

I bet the BIG is still an A instead of an A+

All other pitches were subject to change in NCAA 11. Coach Experience was stubborn when I stayed with one team, and Program Stability and Campus Lifestyle were sort of unpredictable, but everything else changed according to overall success.

It only affects recruiting and I doubt it is a make-or-break pitch. If I'm Oklahoma in the Sun Belt, I highly doubt someone turns me down because I'm in the Sun Belt. It's just there to be there, I'm hoping.

It still a little frustrating though, especially when you have Custom Conferences. I wouldn't recommend using that pitch anyway, as I've learned that Championship Contender, Fan Base, Athletic Facilities, and Television Exposure are favorites more often than not.

[buckeye02]

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Don't forget coach prestige. That one always seems to be a favorite for these prospects.

[pioTROFFski]

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Don't forget coach prestige. That one always seems to be a favorite for these prospects.

You know, I've tried Coach Prestige a lot, but it feels like it just doesn't work as often. For the 4 pitches I mentioned before, I will frequently skip making promises because one of those 4 came up and showed "UNKNOWN". I would say Coach Prestige is a medium-popularity pitch. Things like Academic Prestige and Coach Experience have been low-popularity, in my experience.

[buckeye02]

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You know, I've tried Coach Prestige a lot, but it feels like it just doesn't work as often. For the 4 pitches I mentioned before, I will frequently skip making promises because one of those 4 came up and showed "UNKNOWN". I would say Coach Prestige is a medium-popularity pitch. Things like Academic Prestige and Coach Experience have been low-popularity, in my experience.

I would agree with the low pitches. Never got many Very High's on proximity to home either.

[pioTROFFski]

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I would agree with the low pitches. Never got many Very High's on proximity to home either.

Another low one definitely. I only every try Proximity to Home on in-state guys. From my experience:

High: Championship Contender, Fan Base, Athletic Facilities, TV Exposure

Medium: Pro Potential, Conference Prestige, Coach Prestige, Program Tradition

Low: Program Stability, Campus Lifestyle, Academic Prestige, Proximity to Home

[jujuhound]

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Another low one definitely. I only every try Proximity to Home on in-state guys. From my experience:

High: Championship Contender, Fan Base, Athletic Facilities, TV Exposure

Medium: Pro Potential, Conference Prestige, Coach Prestige, Program Tradition

Low: Program Stability, Campus Lifestyle, Academic Prestige, Proximity to Home

Looks about right. You forgot Early Playing Time, which I think should be high, but seemed more like low to me in '11.

[He1nousOne1]

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Another low one definitely. I only every try Proximity to Home on in-state guys. From my experience:

High: Championship Contender, Fan Base, Athletic Facilities, TV Exposure

Medium: Pro Potential, Conference Prestige, Coach Prestige, Program Tradition

Low: Program Stability, Campus Lifestyle, Academic Prestige, Proximity to Home

This is a good overall average but you could draw up a different one of these for each star tier of recruits. Each tier seems to have its own set of favorite pitches.