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  • #1
    robpriv
    Rookie
    • Jul 2003
    • 49

    Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.


    I was mega-disappointed last night when I finished my contract and found that the carousel makes no sense. Here was my resume:

    After 4 years as the HC at Louisville (BTW, a great team to start a Dynasty with- lots of young talent and speed everywhere) my resume looked like this:

    Took L'ville from 3 star prestige to 6 star.
    Raised my coach prestige all the way to A+.
    Had the winningest record in the country after 4 years (45-10 on Heisman level).
    Had just won the National Championship.

    You would think that I would probably be the most sought after coach in the country right?
    Think again.

    Even though at least a half dozen prestigious, big name programs fired their HC's and needed a new one, the best HC offer I got was from 2 star prestige Texas Tech. Really??!!

    I got a bunch of OC offers but none from top programs. To make things worse, all those big time programs hired coordinators from crappy teams to be their HC, most of which had losing records the previous season! Ridiculous!!!

    I guess the only way to get to blue-chip HC jobs is to go the coordinator route but that way you only get to play your side of the ball and no special teams and you get penalized for not winning enough games while you control less than half of the game. Disappointing.

    I guess I'll try to play "old school" with contracts off and hopefully I'll get reasonable offers
    after successful seasons like in previous versions of the game.

    Just wanted to warn some of you that are thinking about going the way I went.
    Planning to start as the HC for a low-end team and take new HC jobs until you get to your dream job just isn't going to work. EA, please fix this!
    Last edited by robpriv; 08-09-2011, 02:05 PM.
  • #2
    Catamount53
    Rookie
    • Jan 2007
    • 475

    Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.


    Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.

    I'm sure it has to do with the fact that your teams prestige is higher than any of the other teams that would hire you.


    Nick Saban is a great coach, but I'm sure Florida didn't offer him the HC position when Meyer resigned.

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    • #3
      Redacted01
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2007
      • 10316

      Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.


      Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.

      Originally posted by robpriv
      I guess I'll try to play "old school" with contracts off and hopefully I'll get reasonable offers
      after successful seasons like in previous versions of the game.
      There are no contracts; you won't get any offers.

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      • #4
        robpriv
        Rookie
        • Jul 2003
        • 49

        Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.


        Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.

        Originally posted by dochalladay32
        There are no contracts; you won't get any offers.
        So you NEVER get offered new jobs? Can you at least quit and take a job at a lower prestige school like with the older games?

        Good grief, if you have to stay at the same place forever then Dynasty mode becomes unplayable for me. I love FSU but after several years I need new scenery, new uniforms, and a new challenge.

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        • #5
          KentuckyJared20
          Rookie
          • Jul 2009
          • 156

          Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.


          Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.

          Just because you didn't get a good offer in one offseason doesn't mean you won't get a good one later on.

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          • #6
            qwikphaze01
            Rookie
            • Sep 2009
            • 244

            Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.


            Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.

            i agree with you, it is a known fact that some schools are historically better regardless if it is a downtime for that school. for example, michigan, notre dame, when those jobs open up they will always be better than a 6 star louisville. teams don't approach the user created coach as if they are qualified. the only way is to change your alma mater. this will have to be addressed next year. i wish it could be done this year, but we all know that this is the first year of coaching carousel, and they are likely to use this as a learning point and improve it in future installments.

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            • #7
              robpriv
              Rookie
              • Jul 2003
              • 49

              Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.


              Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.

              Originally posted by KentuckyJared20
              Just because you didn't get a good offer in one offseason doesn't mean you won't get a good one later on.
              Yeah but I don't want to spend another 3 or 4 years at a school that I'm sick of for just the very slim chance that a school I want to go to will offer me the job when the next contract expires. It looks like it would take a miracle with the way the carousel works.

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              • #8
                qwikphaze01
                Rookie
                • Sep 2009
                • 244

                Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.


                Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.

                i'll even make this point, my oc and dc have been the best in the six years i played in houston. yet not once have they been offered a coaching contract, not even for the alma mater. the only time the oc got a promotion was when i left to take the hc job at notre dame. not realistic at all. most coaches are in it to reach the top, not be content with being in the shadow of another hc. they should be sought after just as much as i should be for a hc job at a bigger program.

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                • #9
                  Vaporub83
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 399

                  Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.


                  Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.

                  Originally posted by robpriv
                  So you NEVER get offered new jobs? Can you at least quit and take a job at a lower prestige school like with the older games?

                  Good grief, if you have to stay at the same place forever then Dynasty mode becomes unplayable for me. I love FSU but after several years I need new scenery, new uniforms, and a new challenge.
                  Hilarious you used the word DYNASTY but want to switch teams.
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                  • #10
                    blkrptnt819
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2055

                    Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.


                    Originally posted by Vaporub83
                    Hilarious you used the word DYNASTY but want to switch teams.
                    His DYNASTY could be a HC not a team a la Nick Saban who left then came back at another school. I know he went to the nfl but still...
                    CFB: Ohio State, FSU
                    CBB: DUKIE BLUE DEVILS!!!!!!!
                    NBA: Cleveland Cavaliers

                    If you can't tell I LOVE DUKE!!!!!!!!

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                    • #11
                      robpriv
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 49

                      Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.


                      Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.

                      Originally posted by qwikphaze01
                      i agree with you, it is a known fact that some schools are historically better regardless if it is a downtime for that school. for example, michigan, notre dame, when those jobs open up they will always be better than a 6 star louisville. teams don't approach the user created coach as if they are qualified. the only way is to change your alma mater. this will have to be addressed next year. i wish it could be done this year, but we all know that this is the first year of coaching carousel, and they are likely to use this as a learning point and improve it in future installments.
                      I don't think alma mater has anything to do with it. Mine is set to Florida State. As for Michigan and Notre Dame, of course they are more prestigious than L'ville but look at my coaching record. In real life, whenever a young coach takes a low-level team to big success, he can usually get about any job he wants. Examples are numerous- Urban Meyer to Florida from Utah, Mack Brown from UNC to Texas, Nick Saban from Michigan State to LSU, Tommy Bowden from Tulane to Clemson. Jim Harbaugh could have had any job he wanted after last year. Boise State's head coach could go almost anywhere he wanted if he chose to leave.

                      The hot, trendy coach is always a hot commodity in the college football world and has tons of jobs thrown at him from teams looking to change coaches, no matter how prestigious they are. Rich Rodriguez getting the Michigan job is a good example.

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                      • #12
                        robpriv
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 49

                        Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.


                        Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.

                        Originally posted by Vaporub83
                        Hilarious you used the word DYNASTY but want to switch teams.
                        No it's not. When you build a team into a powerhouse and you're crushing everybody year after year because you have a team loaded with 5 star blue-chippers, you want to leave the DYNASTY you have created and try to start a new DYNASTY with a lesser team that you have to rebuild and strengthen into a power. That's the challenge and the variety that keeps the game interesting.
                        Last edited by robpriv; 08-09-2011, 02:07 PM.

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                        • #13
                          robpriv
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 49

                          Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.


                          Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.

                          Originally posted by qwikphaze01
                          i'll even make this point, my oc and dc have been the best in the six years i played in houston. yet not once have they been offered a coaching contract, not even for the alma mater. the only time the oc got a promotion was when i left to take the hc job at notre dame. not realistic at all. most coaches are in it to reach the top, not be content with being in the shadow of another hc. they should be sought after just as much as i should be for a hc job at a bigger program.
                          Thanks for the input. At least you got an offer from a prestigious school. Too bad it took two contracts and 6 years to get it. Did any other good teams try to hire you?

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                          • #14
                            tzinc
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 74

                            Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.


                            Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.

                            It doesn't work properly neither do BCS rankings, custom playbooks etc
                            I am saddened by the half a$$ job EA did on this game

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                            • #15
                              danknerd
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 66

                              Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.


                              Re: Coaching carousel doesn't work like it should.

                              Well for me, I started as the OC at Hawai'i (2 year contract), went 9-4 first season winning the Poinsettia Bowl, second season did exactly the same thing. Meet ALL my goals, did not want to stay in Haw so I took a 3-year offer as the OC for Mizzou, went 12-2 and was the NatChamp, had completed all single season goals as I had still had 2 years left on my contract.

                              However, during the carousel Florida offered me a 3 year HC position. I took that and am currently in the first season with Florida.

                              Seems to be working to me.

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