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  • Dagan
    Pro
    • Jun 2020
    • 623

    #1

    NCAA "next" - are we the reason why?

    It hit me that we all here at this specific site might be the primary reason for the game to come back. I'm not talking about conversation obsessions or banging the drum stuff. I'm talking about how not a year has gone by that people here haven't done whatever it took to keep the last game alive and up to date. Surely, it has proved that per roster accuracy, we are all going to do that "dirty work" ourselves. On the PC side, even uniform accuracies will be handled. More importantly, though, never once in all of this time has any online seller stopped letting anyone at any price, purchase either iteration of NCAA 14 (and there's no way that these people don't or can't have easily found out that rosters could keep being edited to reflect "likeness and abilities" of actual players). For all that the lawsuit kept saying was the reason for any new versions of the game to exist, no one did a single thing to stop anyone from doing the same thing ongoing.

    So, yeah...are we here at this site absolutely who we/everyone else out there should thank (or take immense pride in)?

    I think we/you all are. I honestly want to thank each and every single one of you who have kept things going.
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  • sherrane
    Pro
    • Apr 2013
    • 703

    #2
    Re: NCAA "next" - are we the reason why?

    I was thinking the same thing after reading an ESPN article that said, "For now, EA Sports is planning to move forward without rosters that include the names, images or likenesses of real college players". As long as we edit and share rosters, there is enough of a fan base to make the game real enough. I think it is more important to EA Sports to have "real rosters" than it is to fans because we can make them real enough to the point where we may not feel the need to buy a new game every year.

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    • TheBleedingRed21
      Game Dev
      • Oct 2010
      • 5071

      #3
      Re: NCAA "next" - are we the reason why?

      I was thinking the same thing after reading an ESPN article that said, "For now, EA Sports is planning to move forward without rosters that include the names, images or likenesses of real college players". As long as we edit and share rosters, there is enough of a fan base to make the game real enough. I think it is more important to EA Sports to have "real rosters" than it is to fans because we can make them real enough to the point where we may not feel the need to buy a new game every year.
      You realize as of right now, there will be no roster editing or sharing, right? Lol
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      • MrOctober430
        MVP
        • May 2005
        • 1694

        #4
        Re: NCAA "next" - are we the reason why?

        I think of 3 things.

        1. College football revamped. It really helped by updating the game and bringing back a lot of veteran players (like myself) to get back into NCAA 14 after years of not playing. With it being updated with new uniforms, ESPN interface, it gave a new hope.

        2. Social media/YouTube. A lot pages dedicated to bring back NCAA were popping up and with YouTubers doing dynasty's and RTG it really showed that the game is really beloved.

        3. OperationSports. Absolutely this forum has been part of it as well. Everyone comes here for rosters and always reference to come here for anything new. Without this community NCAA 14 wouldn't be where it's at now. I still check this website daily for good news, and it finally happened yesterday.

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        • TarHeelPhenom
          All Star
          • Jul 2002
          • 7129

          #5
          Re: NCAA "next" - are we the reason why?

          A LOT of people have contributed in a LOT of ways over the years to keep the game going. I personally wanna thank Xan for creating the editors that allowed us to edit and customize the game to our hearts desire. I honestly don't know how long I would have continued to play without it. The editors added several years of replay value for me.
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          • SilverChaosVII
            Pro
            • Jul 2007
            • 559

            #6
            Re: NCAA "next" - are we the reason why?

            Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
            You realize as of right now, there will be no roster editing or sharing, right? Lol
            If this holds, it will only be true for console. I'm not sure if there will be a workaround.

            PC, however, shouldn't be a huge issue with all of the modding capabilities.

            Either way, the roster is far less important in a college football game. Sure, it's obviously preferred, but after the first season or two of playing through the roster is basically turned over to the point where it's a smaller thing.
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            • inhaledpack1
              Rookie
              • Sep 2018
              • 41

              #7
              NCAA "next" - are we the reason why?

              Originally posted by SilverChaosVII
              If this holds, it will only be true for console. I'm not sure if there will be a workaround.



              PC, however, shouldn't be a huge issue with all of the modding capabilities.



              Either way, the roster is far less important in a college football game. Sure, it's obviously preferred, but after the first season or two of playing through the roster is basically turned over to the point where it's a smaller thing.


              That’s how I’m feeling as well... however I would be bummed out if I wasn’t given the ability to edit equipment or numbers etc. of players I’ve signed a few years into the dynasty


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              • thescoop
                MVP
                • Jan 2006
                • 1288

                #8
                Re: NCAA "next" - are we the reason why?

                This site definitely played a part. The folks here kept the passion alive for the game. Others mentioned already in this thread like the Revamped, different YouTubers playing the title.

                I also think EA started "testing the waters" by including College teams in Madden in their "story modes." It gave them an idea of if they could work with these Universities or not. (Hopefully 2K is doing the same thing and gearing up for a College hoops comeback, but I doubt it.)

                But anything that helped keep the passion alive and allowed a company like EA to see they were leaving money on the table was a factor. This site had a role for sure.
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                • mpklub
                  Pro
                  • Nov 2018
                  • 542

                  #9
                  Re: NCAA "next" - are we the reason why?

                  Yeah I want to give props to this community as well. I stumbled upon OS when looking for some information on how to play NBA 2k because I had not played a video basketball game in two decades. I found my way over to the NCAA forum and was amazed at what the community here at OS had done with NCAA 14.

                  Since then I have learned how to use the editor, implement the playoff, edit rosters, etc. Its been a blast. I poured hours into old NCAA games from 2002 to 2008 and then didn't touch the games for like a decade.

                  Now they are back in my gaming rotation permanently.

                  Just a little shout to OS for all their work on this game and how it helped bring the game back.

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                  • hawkeyebred2332
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 116

                    #10
                    Re: NCAA "next" - are we the reason why?

                    Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
                    You realize as of right now, there will be no roster editing or sharing, right? Lol
                    Has that been definitively stated? I am legitimately asking as I haven't been to read everything out there yet.

                    If you're just interpreting "planning to move forward without rosters that include the names, images or likenesses of real college players" as implying no ability to share rosters, not sure I see that conclusion there.

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                    • sherrane
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 703

                      #11
                      Re: NCAA "next" - are we the reason why?

                      Originally posted by TheBleedingRed21
                      You realize as of right now, there will be no roster editing or sharing, right? Lol

                      I didn't read that. Where did you? The ability to edit rosters has been in the game for a long time. I remember there were a few places that would sell named rosters on memory cards on the older systems.

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                      • TripleCrown9
                        Keep the Faith
                        • May 2010
                        • 23742

                        #12
                        Re: NCAA "next" - are we the reason why?

                        I don't think there will be roster sharing, but there will be roster editing.

                        That's how I see it playing out anyways.
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                        • TheBleedingRed21
                          Game Dev
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 5071

                          #13
                          Re: NCAA "next" - are we the reason why?

                          Come on guys. I’m not saying it just to say it, why would I want it to be true.. how do you take this any other way? Check the thread for “All info we know” so you can have “all the info we know”. Trust me, I want to edit everything and hope to god we can. But just sharing the knowledge I have about that blurb.

                          Also as a PC modder of Madden and NCAA, don’t expect this on PC anytime soon. Even it is, heck, we can’t get any tools for Madden 21, who you think is going to help us with EA College Football? Lol.

                          The game will include school names, logos, traditions, fight songs, mascots, colors, uniforms and stadiums. Navigating around potentially litigious NIL matter was a delicate matter, and barring users from being able to customize players to their liking was an important stipulation for the schools, said Cory Moss, CLC’s chief executive. EA Sports was able to do a trial run of sorts with recent Madden titles, which incorporated a handful of college team options but did not include specific players.

                          “We wanted to work with EA just in that small module to see how they could work to formulate the rosters and work with the schools on the approval process to make sure there wasn’t any possibility of using any current student-athlete’s name, image and likeness,” he said.
                          Last edited by TheBleedingRed21; 02-03-2021, 04:20 PM.
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                          • young22
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2017
                            • 2083

                            #14
                            Re: NCAA "next" - are we the reason why?

                            Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                            I don't think there will be roster sharing, but there will be roster editing.

                            That's how I see it playing out anyways.
                            As long as I have full editing on players in Dynasty, I'm good. Don't follow college football particularly closely, I wouldn't know who say, FAU's starting running back is.

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                            • fballturkey
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 2370

                              #15
                              Re: NCAA "next" - are we the reason why?

                              It was only relatively recently that the number of people browsing the Madden forum was consistently higher than the NCAA forum. That’s pretty remarkable for a game that is now two generations back.

                              I think they saw communities like us and that helped sell that there is a market, for sure.
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