Progression makes dynasty mode unplayable

[drowsike]

someone sim past when the freshman graduate

[Bballplaya72]

Quote: Originally Posted by HokiesCavs

I think the problem is that they weren't consistent with their changes to dynasty mode. They said that they changed it so that recruits come in rated much lower than in the past years but progression is much quicker. However, the freshmen on the default roster(by that I mean the one off of EA Locker) are just as highly rated, if not higher, than in the past. My theory is that many of the freshmen on the default roster progress as quickly as the generated recruits are supposed to; however, most of them are more highly rated than future generated recruits will be. Because of this, there will be many 90's in the first few years of dynasty. Again, this is just my theory.

I could deal with that. I fully plan to go at least 20 years with a dynasty anyway.

If the first 3-4 years are full of superstars and playmakers, thats fine, as long as it isnt like that for the entire time.

[mmorg]

Quote: Originally Posted by HokiesCavs

I think the problem is that they weren't consistent with their changes to dynasty mode. They said that they changed it so that recruits come in rated much lower than in the past years but progression is much quicker. However, the freshmen on the default roster(by that I mean the one off of EA Locker) are just as highly rated, if not higher, than in the past. My theory is that many of the freshmen on the default roster progress as quickly as the generated recruits are supposed to; however, most of them are more highly rated than future generated recruits will be. Because of this, there will be many 90's in the first few years of dynasty. Again, this is just my theory.

Yeah this is how it works. Once someone creates a custom roster and lowers the ratings of the default roster across the board, the problem we see with 30+ 99 OVR players 4 years into Dynasty won't be a problem. I simmed 3 or 4 dynasties 4 years into the future and all of these guys were highly rated freshmen from the default roster not new recruits, unless they were JUCO transfers, I had no way of tracking that.

[sois]

Quote: Originally Posted by mmorg

Yeah this is how it works. Once someone creates a custom roster and lowers the ratings of the default roster across the board, the problem we see with 30+ 99 OVR players 4 years into Dynasty won't be a problem. I simmed 3 or 4 dynasties 4 years into the future and all of these guys were highly rated freshmen from the default roster not new recruits, unless they were JUCO transfers, I had no way of tracking that.

This is good news. The problem will be waiting probably a month for good rosters.

I guess I can just pretend this is the golden age of college football

[BSanders]

Quote: Originally Posted by 7unholyconfessions7

I have not seen one player regress yet, Although I haven't played it enough yet to make an official statement.

If the players don't regress then I see a big problem with that.

[Kentucky3D]

Here's an interesting dynasty post from Chris Jacobs of NCAA Utopia:

At the start of year six in Dynasty, here are some player rating facts to address the question of player progression from earlier in the thread:

- 29 players have ratings of 99 OVR
- Every school has three QBs

All QBs rated 90 or higher:
USC QB McIntosh - 96 OVR (93 THP, 90 THA)
Mia QB Causey - 95 OVR
Cal QB Parks - 94 OVR (93 THP, 92 THA)
USC QB Haas - 94 OVR
Tenn QB Jones - 94 OVR
PSU QB Jones - 93 OVR
Texas QB Thompson - 93 OVR
UGA QB Cooper - 92 OVR
Ore QB Harvey - 92 OVR
Wisc QB Sullivan - 91 OVR
Cal QB Ewing - 91 OVR (93 THP, 87 THA)
LSU QB King - 91 OVR
Navy QB Harris - 91 OVR
ND QB Pittman - 91 OVR
VT QB Thomas - 90 OVR
Mia QB Battle - 90 OVR
Mich QB Porter - 90 OVR

Top 10 QBs by SPD:
UGA QB Cooper - 90 SPD
SJSU QB Brown - 88 SPD
LSU QB Stewart - 88 SPD
WVU QB Peterson - 87 SPD
Mich QB Porter - 87 SPD
Mem QB Robinson - 87 SPD
Ore St QB Lewis - 87 SPD
Tenn QB Smith - 87 SPD
Illini QB McLaughlin - 86 SPD
Clem QB Ross - 86 SPD

Top RBs:
USC HB Stevenson - 99 OVR
Mich HB Powell - 97 OVR
FSU HB Cade - 95 OVR
Mary HB Scott - 95 OVR
Mia HB Clark - 94 OVR
ND HB Owen - 94 OVR
UNC HB Robinson - 94 OVR
WVU HB Green - 93 OVR
USC HB Neal - 93 OVR
AUB HB Morris - 93 OVR
UGA HB Thomas - 93 OVR
ND HB Mathis - 93 OVR
RUT HB Porter - 93 OVR
SJSU HB Coe - 92 OVR
UF HB Martin - 92 OVR
IND HB Robinson - 92 OVR
LSU HB Madsen - 92 OVR
tOSU HB McKenzie - 92 OVR
TENN HB Pollard - 92 OVR
UCLA HB Fitch - 92 OVR
BAMA HB Smith - 91 OVR
CLEM HB Douglas - 91 OVR
FIU HB Lewis - 91 OVR
WF HB Jackson - 91 OVR
FSU HB West - 91 OVR
MIA HB Warren - 91 OVR
WMU HB Finley - 91 OVR
TEXAS HB Powell - 91 OVR
A&M HB Wagner - 91 OVR
VT HB Clemens - 90 OVR
NW HB Lewis - 90 OVR
CAL HB Johnson - 90 OVR
LSU HB Vincent - 90 OVR
UNC HB taylor - 90 OVR
PSU HB Wright - 90 OVR
TENN HB Benjamin - 90 OVR
USC HB Massey - 90 OVR
TEM HB Newell - 90 OVR
TEXAS HB Silva - 90 OVR
A&M HB Pitts - 90 OVR


Top FBs:
BAMA FB Malloy - 94 OVR
FSU FB Washington - 92 OVR
VT FB Irvin - 90 OVR
USC FB Harris - 90 OVR
TEXAS FB Thompson - 90 OVR
CIN FB Williams - 87 OVR


Top WRs:
UF WR Lester - 97 OVR
GT WR Cobb - 97 OVR
UF WR Richardson - 96 OVR
OU WR Wilson - 96 OVR
ND WR Johnson - 95 OVR
Tenn WR Hicks - 95 OVR
LSU WR Gallagher - 94 OVR
NMSU WR Mosley - 94 OVR
WMU WR Floyd - 93 OVR
UF WR Stewart - 93 OVR
KAN WR Edwards - 93 OVR
tOSU WR Cobbs - 93 OVR
BAMA WR Warren - 93 OVR
OU WR Wallace - 93 OVR
WVU WR Harvey - 93 OVR
CIN WR Bailey - 92 OVR
LSU WR Lewis - 92 OVR
MICH WR Anderson - 92 OVR
OK ST WR Sims - 92 OVR
TROY WR Mills - 91 OVR
WISC WR Davis - 91 OVR
UF WR Sledge - 91 OVR
MIA WR Riley - 91 OVR
PSU WR Thornton - 91 OVR
PSU WR Howard - 91 OVR
USC WR Bonner - 91 OVR
FSU WR Osborn - 90 OVR
IND WR Romero - 90 OVR
LOU WR Smith - 90 OVR
PSU WR Foster - 90 OVR
tOSU WR Washington - 90 OVR
TTU WR Fisher - 90 OVR
WISC WR Chase - 89 OVR


Top TEs:
OU TE Evans - 96 OVR
WISC TE Smith - 95 OVR
CINCY TE Brittain - 94 OVR
ND TE King - 94 OVR
AZ ST TE Ramirez - 93 OVR
UF TE Bean - 93 OVR
NW TE Banks - 93 OVR
UNC TE Lester - 92 OVR
MICH TE Johnson - 91 OVR
NEB TE Butler - 91 OVR
RUT TE Thomas - 91 OVR
OU TE Henderson - 91 OVR
LSU TE Kiniry - 90 OVR
MIA TE Whaley - 90 OVR
BAMA TE Cummings - 90 OVR
TENN TE Colbert - 90 OVR
USC TE Russell - 90 OVR
AUB TE Stover - 90 OVR


Top LT:
Four players rated 99
98 - 1
97 - 3
96 - 2
95 - 6
94 - 1
93 - 2
92 - 3
91 - 5
90 - 7

Top LG:
99 - 1
98 - 3
97 - 1
96 - 2
95 - 4
94 - 5
93 - 4
92 - 3
91 - 5
90 - 7

Top C:
99 - 5
98 - 3
97 - 3
96 - 2
95 - 2
94 - 2
93 - 3
92 - 5
91 - 8
90 - 10

One thing that people on there were confused about is that when you change a player's position from say HB to FB on the PS3, the player's AGI and BTK decrease in addition to their AWR. On the 360 however, only the AWR decreases (this is how it should work).

[SHO]

Quote:

One thing that people on there were confused about is that when you change a player's position from say HB to FB on the PS3, the player's AGI and BTK decrease in addition to their AWR. On the 360 however, only the AWR decreases (this is how it should work).

WEAK. Russell said they fixed this.....

[tweadle]

That looks fair to me. Good stuff, thanks for the post.