Pooch Kickoffs

[thisisasticup]

why does it seem like everyone i play with an excessively good record does these kick offs? EA needs to take the ability to do this out of the game.

[kingoftroy59]

Why would they take it out? It's a perfectly legitimate playcall, and is used in real life football games to negate skilled returners.

[thisisasticup]

Quote: Originally Posted by kingoftroy59

Why would they take it out? It's a perfectly legitimate playcall, and is used in real life football games to negate skilled returners.

Not Squib kicks. This is an exploit. Where it kicks a perfect little kick just over the first line of blockers and the defense recovers it almost 90% of the time.

[kingoftroy59]

Ah, gotcha. But as for the pooch kick you're describing, we ran it when I played in high school and called it, "kick pass". Recovered it a good amount of the time too...so if high school kickers can perfect it in real life, I don't know what to tell you about it happening in NCAA. Maybe always start in Onside Kick Return to stop it? *shrug*

[bakerpa25]

You can get it right a few times but it takes along time to master.

[VUFTBL1]

Has anybody tried calling for a fair catch after the ball is kicked? In Madden a few years ago you could pooch kick it near the sideline and take control of your outside man and catch it on the fly. The way to combat that was to call for a fair catch (even if the guy you were controlling wasnt anywhere near the ball - then it would be a penalty for kick catch interference if the kicking team caught the ball). I guess if the ball hits the ground though it becomes a moot point.

[bakerpa25]

Quote: Originally Posted by VUFTBL1

Has anybody tried calling for a fair catch after the ball is kicked? In Madden a few years ago you could pooch kick it near the sideline and take control of your outside man and catch it on the fly. The way to combat that was to call for a fair catch (even if the guy you were controlling wasnt anywhere near the ball - then it would be a penalty for kick catch interference if the kicking team caught the ball). I guess if the ball hits the ground though it becomes a moot point.

When Ive been doing it in practice mode there is no time for fair catch bc the ball hits the ground if they do it right. The best way to defend it is in an onside formation bc you have a much better chance compared to regular return. In practice regular return I was getting 90 % onside I was getting 40%

[thisisasticup]

Quote: Originally Posted by bakerpa25

When Ive been doing it in practice mode there is no time for fair catch bc the ball hits the ground if they do it right. The best way to defend it is in an onside formation bc you have a much better chance compared to regular return. In practice regular return I was getting 90 % onside I was getting 40%

Yeah exactly, you cant even fair catch it. Its pretty ridiculous. Im 38-31 and id say 15 of my losses end up being to people who do that, and even then i lose by only a touchdown because its the difference in the game.