How do I kick whilst being "iced"????

[TXHusker25]

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

I don;t understand why you guys are calling it silly and a cheese feature. Icing the kicker happens all the time in real life. If you think it doesn't affect the kicker in real life, go ask an NFL or college kicker what that timeout can do to you. How many times have we seen a kicker miss a chip shot because he was iced? Its not just coincidence.

Yes, it really IS just a coincidence. Kickers do not get iced by the timeout, especially in an era when everyone knows it is coming including the kicker. I know quite a few kickers, all of kicked in some pretty big spots and not a single one would tell you a pre-kick timeout affected them. Even if it subconsciously did, they would say it absolutely did not. So asking an NFL or college kicker won't get you far (and trust me, I have).

The problem with icing in the game is its implementation. Instead of changing the camera and icing the meter, why not make the sensitivity of the meter so much more sensitive that you have to be near perfect.

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Stop complaining

[MajaFiggaz]

I dont think icing the kicker is a myth. Of course no one is gonna admit they've been iced, that they lost there composure. If a person doesn't respond well to high pressure situations calling a timeout and giving the kicker another minute to think about it and possibly psych himself out can be the difference between a win or loss

"Icing is a myth that coaches perpetuate because they don't understand kicking so they associate superstitions with it. Kicking is a muscle memory reflex action... if "icing" a kicker worked, every time out in a baseball game would produce a ground out."

I think you used the wrong sports analogy. I think this situation is more similar to fouling a bad or emotional foul shooter in basketball. Some players just don't respond to high pressure situations like Vince Carter last year in ORL. Even though it's not a TO it somewhat serves a similar purpose.

[bmxdmx]

i've never been iced as yet. lucky me

[canes21]

That timeout definitely affects kickers. I don't know what you were saying exactly with your analogy adem, but its not a myth. It has worked in the past and will work in the future. Some kickers can handle pressure better than others, so it may not work every time, but there are a number of times a kicker would hit the kick 1,000 times in a row, but that timeout is called and he coincidentally misses that kick. Its happened way too many time in history for me to just believe its all a coincidence.

[Rashad19]

Can't agree with you Adem. Icing the kicker is meant to attack the kicker's psyche and it does work. Instead of allowing the kicker to go through his normal routine he's forced to wait a little longer, analyze a bit longer as wells as think about the magnitude of the situation at hand. Most kickers will always say it doesn't effect them but in most cases it takes them out of their comfort zone.

[TXHusker25]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rashad19

Can't agree with you Adem. Icing the kicker is meant to attack the kicker's psyche and it does work. Instead of allowing the kicker to go through his normal routine he's forced to wait a little longer, analyze a bit longer as wells as think about the magnitude of the situation at hand. Most kickers will always say it doesn't effect them but in most cases it takes them out of their comfort zone.

The thing is, kickers all know it is coming. It doesn't affect anything, I hate to break it to you guys, but it absolutely has no affect. Kickers all know the other team is going to do it and their routine is to wait for it and then get in their true routine. Some teams actually have their kicker practice like this during specialist period in practice. They will have the team lineup, go through their prep and either blow the whistle or let it go.

Frankly, the timeout isn't what is gets to kickers, it is teams that go up to the ref on the sideline, act like they are going to call the timeout and then don't.

I'm fine with it being in the game, but not like this, the way it is done is silly. It should just become a hypersensitive meter both in direction and distance, more sensitive for younger/inexperienced kickers, less for experienced.

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Quote: Originally Posted by TXHusker25

Some teams actually have their kicker practice like this during specialist period in practice. They will have the team lineup, go through their prep and either blow the whistle or let it go.

You can't compare practice with 4th qtr of a game where you know everybody in the stadium and millions around the nation are watching you try a game-winning kick. Its really not something you can practice for, no way to simulate that kind of pressure outside of an actual game. Some can handle thinking about it for a few extra seconds without psyching themselves out, some can't. Icing works on those that can't.

Do agree with you on the fact that its overdone in '11. With kicking sliders around 10-20 it makes it nearly impossible to kick while iced.