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Old 09-21-2010, 06:49 PM   #9
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I'm not on ps3 but I think I found something I can work with. 4-4 man, middle LB in zone. stunt the DL to the outside. Shift LB's outside. switch each outside backer to contain. Then control the MLB to shoot the gaps. That technique shut down both the inside and outside run cold. Although it will leave you somewhat exposed to the pass.
Very impressive! i have a similar setup but i dont contain my backers but the 4-4 is the key man to stopping the heavy sets.
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Old 09-21-2010, 11:29 PM   #10
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I run this occasionally, usually at the start of the game or near the goaline, but I don't see how it's considered "cheese".
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Old 09-21-2010, 11:45 PM   #11
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The other day I was playing a guy using this with Nebraska the whole game...I'm playing as Kansas, mind you...Kansas...they of the stink of stink....I asked him to stop the constant cheese and his response was "it's not cheese, it's a formation in the game." Huh? I waited until 2d half so he'd get his precious W and then just quit. Why waste 30 minutes on that is what I say.
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Nebraska has a formation called ACE JUMBO and I'm about ready to lose it if I don't figure out a way to stop it. It has 2-3 TE's and a FB with a single back behind center. What makes it so hard is they can pitch or run inside VERY effectivly, as they have 9, YES, 9 in the box. It's an even formation, or they can motion and have an insane strong side. It also has multiple pass plays that are VERY challenging to cover.

I use North Carolina which has one of the best defenses in the game.I'm also a very seasoned player. I've pinched, I've contained, I've spread my line, my LB's. I've hit practive mode for over an hour last night. I can take away either the pitch, inside run, or pass but I have to make a lot of user adjustments to even take one of these away. I don't know how the hell you can play the inside run, outside run, and pass at the same time.

You will see this to start and become more prevelant as more people find out about the formation. We need to figure out a way to stop it! It's very frustrating and I see no solutions here.

The formation can be stopped. I'm Nebraska in an OD on another site and I have been shut down in user games (64yards) running before. May not seem like a lot but I RUN ON EVERYBODY. Keeping me under 100 is a task and this is using any playbook. It's not the formation its the defense called. I don't run exclusively from this formation but it didn't work against one user. Some users will continue to play me with a 3-4, 4-3 defensive front and that honestly doesn't work. You need to match up size wise or I'll run through you all day. You need to play the 4-6 and have TALENT that has high block shed ratings.

Overwhelming the point of attack is GOOD running, nothing more nothing less.

I wouldn't be surprised if your my next opponent looking for pointers before we play, lol jk... he's a cool dude but he has no idea what's coming.

It's not cheese because you can't stop it when their are alot of folks that have no problem.
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Old 09-22-2010, 07:11 PM   #13
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The formation can be stopped. I'm Nebraska in an OD on another site and I have been shut down in user games (64yards) running before. May not seem like a lot but I RUN ON EVERYBODY. Keeping me under 100 is a task and this is using any playbook. It's not the formation its the defense called. I don't run exclusively from this formation but it didn't work against one user. Some users will continue to play me with a 3-4, 4-3 defensive front and that honestly doesn't work. You need to match up size wise or I'll run through you all day. You need to play the 4-6 and have TALENT that has high block shed ratings.

Overwhelming the point of attack is GOOD running, nothing more nothing less.

I wouldn't be surprised if your my next opponent looking for pointers before we play, lol jk... he's a cool dude but he has no idea what's coming.

It's not cheese because you can't stop it when their are alot of folks that have no problem.
If I lined up with 4-4 or 4-6 with no user adjustments this formation can't be stopped. Not against Wisconsin. If you think you have a base play that can hold this to under 5 yards a carry by all means let me test it out. Your full of crap if you think a play like that exists.
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If I lined up with 4-4 or 4-6 with no user adjustments this formation can't be stopped. Not against Wisconsin. If you think you have a base play that can hold this to under 5 yards a carry by all means let me test it out. Your full of crap if you think a play like that exists.

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Its not cheese, it works wth the right players and doesn't work with the wrong players. I've stopped it, and been stopped using it.
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Old 09-23-2010, 03:03 PM   #16
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If I lined up with 4-4 or 4-6 with no user adjustments this formation can't be stopped. Not against Wisconsin. If you think you have a base play that can hold this to under 5 yards a carry by all means let me test it out. Your full of crap if you think a play like that exists.
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