05-08-2011, 08:27 PM
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Re: VT Hokies 2011 Roster as Case Study on How Closely Video Game Players Match Real
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I get the impression that you have no idea what you are talking about.
I'm not sure where you got these ratings from, but wherever they came from obviously doesn't know that the Hokies' top three receivers are Jarret Boykin, Danny Coale, and Dyrell Roberts. A person who has been following the team for many years should know that. Marcus Davis did play in all fourteen games and he did catch passes for 239 yards last season, but that's hardly enough to warrant an equal rating to and a starting spot over senior Danny Coale, who more than tripled that yardage output in 2010 with 732 yards receiving. Davis wasn't really a hot-shot recruit either, rated as a 3* athlete by Rivals, and he was converted from quarterback to wide receiver shortly after he arrived in Blacksburg.
Not sure how you decided that the Hokies' offense and defense will be on par with each other this season given that the Hokies offense has to replace its best three players from last season - QB Tyrod Taylor, RB Ryan Williams, and RB Darren Evans. Junior David Wilson is good, but there's nothing proven behind him. Josh Oglesby will get the first crack at reserve tailback, but he spent all of last season playing fullback.
Moving on, a person who has been following the team for many years should also know that Danny Coale is absolutely NOT the punter and isn't even listed amongst any of the Hokies specialists. He's strictly a wide receiver. There is no other player with the last name "Coale" on the Hokies.
Further, I have no idea where you got Lorenzo Williams from at SS, he isn't listed on the two-deep in the Hokies' spring media guide and hasn't recorded a single tackle for Tech in his career. The reserve rover should be Wiley Brown, who appeared in eight games last season.
I have other issues with the ratings, in particular I want to know how on earth a redshirt sophomore quarterback with all of 106 passing yards to his credit gets an OVR rating of 86 (QB Logan Thomas) and in general the generosity with ratings for other players who lack true gameday experience. Ratings are more subjective admittedly, but I digress.
Basically, the cynic in me simply thinks you took the Virginia Tech team in NCAA 11, advanced a season in dynasty, thus removing the seniors and Ryan Williams, and went from there for this "projection".
I have no idea what the point of this exercise altogether is. "Post your conclusions"... what are you even looking for? Why is this thing you are doing of any interest to anyone?
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You wrote: "I get the impression that you have no idea what you are talking about" >>>
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I am CERTAIN that you have no idea what you are talking about. If you had consulted a 2011 roster and depth chart rather than a 2010 roster and depth chart and knew any details of what transpired during Virginia Tech spring ball you would not have made a post that is 100% inaccurate.>>
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If you knew anything at all about Virginia Tech spring ball you would know that the final spring depth chart listed Davis as the co-starter with Coale. In NCAA 11 Coale had an overall rating of 88. Based upon his play last year I raised him to an 89. Since the two are co-starters I made both an 89.>>
You wrote: "Not sure how you decided that the Hokies' offense and defense will be on par with each other this season given that the Hokies offense has to replace its best three players from last season - QB Tyrod Taylor, RB Ryan Williams, and RB Darren Evans. Junior David Wilson is good, but there's nothing proven behind him. Josh Oglesby will get the first crack at reserve tailback, but he spent all of last season playing fullback.*> >
You likewise obviously do not know that anything about how Virginia Tech was rated in NCAA 11. That team had an A- offense, a B+ defense and was a B+ overall. The version of the team that will be featured in NCAA 12 will have lost several key players on offense. The offense then slips to a B+. If you followed Virginia Tech spring ball you would know that the current defense is expected to be better than last year's defense. When I inputted the ratings the defense remained at a B+ and the other letter grades were as described.
You wrote: "Moving on, a person who has been following the team for many years should also know that Danny Coale is absolutely NOT the punter and isn't even listed amongst any of the Hokies specialists. He's strictly a wide receiver. There is no other player with the last name "Coale" on the Hokies.">>
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If you had followed Virginia Tech spring ball you would know that Danny Coale is not just a received but also the leading candidate to be the team's punter.
You wrote: "Further, I have no idea where you got Lorenzo Williams from at SS, he isn't listed on the two-deep in the Hokies' spring media guide and hasn't recorded a single tackle for Tech in his career. The reserve rover should be Wiley Brown, who appeared in eight games last season.">>
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I you had an idea you would know that Williams moved from LB to SS after the end of last season. The key word in the "Hokies' spring media guide" is SPRING. I clearly stated in this thread that the depth chart I created is as it should be if all the players who missed spring ball due to injury return and take their rightful places on the depth chart. Williams was injured all spring and so was not reflected in the depth chart found in the media guide. If you are going to attack my thread you could at least read what I have posted before make a post yourself>>
You noted: "I have other issues with the ratings, in particular I want to know how on earth a redshirt sophomore quarterback with all of 106 passing yards to his credit gets an OVR rating of 86 (QB Logan Thomas) and in general the generosity with ratings for other players who lack true gameday experience. Ratings are more subjective admittedly, but I digress."> >
You do not seem to be aware that Thomas appeared in last year's game as a TE with an overall rating of 80 even though he had never played a single down. I changed his position, tweaked his ratings to account for the position change and his increased experience and an 86 is the number that I was left with in the end.
You also wrote: "Basically, the cynic in me simply thinks you took the Virginia Tech team in NCAA 11, advanced a season in dynasty, thus removing the seniors and Ryan Williams, and went from there for this "projection". >>
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Tell me how I could use dynasty mode to create the MANY players on this year's team that were not included in the roster found on NCAA 11. Furthermore, if you knew anything at all about dynasty mode you would be aware that the consensus opinion is that it is flawed and does not produce results that are at all realistic.
You commented: "I have no idea what the point of this exercise altogether is. "Post your conclusions"... what are you even looking for? Why is this thing you are doing of any interest to anyone?"
Obviously it is of interest to you since you read a good part of the thread, took the time to do some flawed research and added a post to it. As I type this 834 others have also shown enough interest to visit the thread. I explained everything in the thread. Take a break from attacking me and read what I have written. If you read it and still don't understand then I can't help you.>>
Last edited by Warren Piecee; 05-14-2011 at 11:46 PM.
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