Is this cheese or am i just to much a sim player

[ODogg]

personally I like to play against folks who play as the real team plays, in other words if a team runs hurry up in real life then I like to see them do the same in the game and vice versa.....that doesn't mean if you don't you're cheesing but I still wouldn't like it as much if you did. For example if you play versus hawaii youd like to see the other coach pass a lot, if you play versus michigan youd like to see drob run on you, etc

As long as you are coaching somewhat akin to the real teams tendencies I will enjoy playing against you, or at least trying to....(for example if youre down by 28 with a rushing team I wouldnt expect you to keep rushing)...just my opinion

[poopoop]

Quote: Originally Posted by jfsolo

"Your Honor, in the case of Solo vs. Online Play, I'd like to introduce into evidence this thread as Exhibit A. I think it will lay down the groundwork for my attempt to prove that Online Play sucks."

Online play is much better than offline/against CPU.

It's not even close. The issue comes when people let their ego get in the way and/or can't take a loss. Also with people who label anything they can't stop or don't like cheese.

Sorry OP you are too much of a "sim" player because you expect your opponents to run their offense in a way that caters to you.

[MagicMan1315]

Quote: Originally Posted by iJumpshot23x

Oh ok. I saw a video on that once. It was called the A11 though. I looked to see if it was possible to run in NCAA 12 but found nothing on the A11. Only that it's actually illegal to use outside of punting/kicking situations.(a.k.a not every down)

A11? Wait? Its illegal? ... Please explain...

Cause I use the formation just about every game in NCAA 12 via my custom playbook. Its a perfectly legal formation.. you have 5 down linemen, and you have 7 men on the line. That is all that's required. (Basically)

[Pogo27]

Quote: Originally Posted by MagicMan1315

A11? Wait? Its illegal? ... Please explain... Cause I use the formation just about every game in NCAA 12 via my custom playbook. Its a perfectly legal formation.. you have 5 down linemen, and you have 7 men on the line. That is all that's required. (Basically)

Basically, yes.

All that is required is that you have 7 men on the line of scrimmage and 4 men behind the line of scrimmage. The only eligible receivers are the 4 men behind the line of scrimmage as well as the players at the far ends of the line of scrimmage. In college, that's 100% it.

In fact, your center could be an eligible receiver if you put 6 men on the line of scrimmage all to one side of him...

[iJumpshot23x]

Quote: Originally Posted by MagicMan1315

A11? Wait? Its illegal? ... Please explain... Cause I use the formation just about every game in NCAA 12 via my custom playbook. Its a perfectly legal formation.. you have 5 down linemen, and you have 7 men on the line. That is all that's required. (Basically)

Well from what i read the A-11 is illegal. It's the same formation as the Emory Henry but all of the players aren't linemen. They are tight ends, running backs, and receivers. The QB is 7 yards behind center. You don't know who the eligable receivers are until they cross the line therefore causing mass confusion. Sometimes other QB's line up on the wings as well to give more options. It's an incredible offense. So it is different that the Emory Henry you use in NCAA 12.

YouTube it. Crazy stuff.

[ActLikeYouCrow]

i could see it either way, but i dont think it would bother me. cheese to me would be having an incomplete deep pass, then going no huddle because you thought you had someone open. i had a friend do that once and i immediately told him that was the corniest crap ive ever seen.

[Pogo27]

Quote: Originally Posted by iJumpshot23x

You don't know who the eligable receivers are until they cross the line therefore causing mass confusion.

I don't know if this is high school football you're talking about or what, and if it is, I'd be interested in knowing what state you're talking about...

But in college and NFL (as well as high school football here in Arkansas, as far as I know), eligible receivers are clearly defined. They're the 4 players behind the line of scrimmage plus the 2 players on either end of the line of scrimmage.

If a team doesn't have 7 players on the line and 4 players behind, it's a penalty for "Illegal Formation." If one of the 5 players on the line and not on the ends is across the line of scrimmage when a forward pass is thrown, it's a penalty for "Illegal Receiver Downfield" (or however they word it).

The only rule change from college to NFL is that the jersey numbering system is very specific, making it easier for officials to determine who is and isn't an eligible receiver (as offensive linemen are required to wear 50-79, and no other offensive player may select these numbers--and only linebackers and DLine can take numbers 50-59).

If an NFL team comes out in an unbalanced formation leaving the tackle at the end of the line (and therefore an eligible receiver), he has to tell the referee that he is an eligible receiver. Same goes for if there's a player from the defense in as a receiver (the Patriots have done this with LBs coming in as TE, Chiefs as well), as they're often wearing offensive linemen numbers.

[MagicMan1315]

Quote: Originally Posted by iJumpshot23x

Well from what i read the A-11 is illegal. It's the same formation as the Emory Henry but all of the players aren't linemen. They are tight ends, running backs, and receivers. The QB is 7 yards behind center. You don't know who the eligable receivers are until they cross the line therefore causing mass confusion. Sometimes other QB's line up on the wings as well to give more options. It's an incredible offense. So it is different that the Emory Henry you use in NCAA 12. YouTube it. Crazy stuff.

Provide a link if you could please.

And as for the A-11, and the guy above me, now that I have thought about it... It is possible. send 11 players out. And have 6 players be declared as eligible receivers.. But like only have 3 actual linemen and have like 4 tight ends but two of them are actually eligible.. I know in Texas, the ref announces it on the speaker... and so.. its up to the defense to remember which player he said was eligible and which one wasn't.

But I am not too sure if thats allowed in the rules or not.