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Old 02-26-2015, 01:36 AM   #9
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Maybe you're rushing your throws. I became a better passer when I'd snap the ball, take my hand off any joystick, and let the QB do his natural drop-back. From there, you can step up, move throughout the pocket, etc. But that time spent on the drop-back I noticed permits you more time to read the defense (assuming you're not making pre-snap reads.) I also noticed, and maybe it was fool's gold, when you bail out of your drop-back early, the defensive line tends to get off their blocks earlier too.
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Old 02-26-2015, 10:22 AM   #10
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Oh yeah!

Here's a no brainer that I can't believe that I didn't mention before.

Play with the coordinator camera angle. This allows you to see the entire defense and makes passing WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY easier.


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Old 02-26-2015, 10:29 AM   #11
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When I play users the passing attack is easily 3x more overpowered than the rushing attack. Doods just use the same exploit plays they've discovered over the 6 seasons of playing the same version of NCAA. It's annoying because when they need a first they get a first, when they need a score, they get a score, and I know there's nothing I can do about it because I've played 3x online and they've played 204 and figured out the kinks. But I don't trip when I lose so

You don't need the same "exploit" plays. Most of my passes have multiple routes (streaks and curls/streaks and outs/hitches, slants, outs, and fades/ slants and bubbles, etc,etc) and its extremely rare for the defenders to be able to cover every route. Maybe the curl and slant are covered, but the streak and out are open. Maybe they covered my hitch and slant, but the curl and bubble are open.

I find it very rare that all 4 or 5 of my routes (whatever type they may be) are covered on any given play, as long as there are 3+ different types. As long as you read the D and throw it to the open guy you should be fine.


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Old 02-26-2015, 12:24 PM   #12
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I commiserate with you. I tend to throw a lot of picks as well. My picks generally have 4 causes:

1) I anticipate that my receiver will actually battle the defender for the ball. This never happens. If I assume my receiver will be smart enough to undercut a zone defender when the ball is in the air or that he will make an adjustment on the long ball similar to that made by the defender, that's just me being dumb.

2) I still assume my QBs can put touch and loft on a deep ball...which they almost never do. My receiver may be open over the top, but if I can't get the ball over the defender, it doesn't matter.

3) I assume the QB will throw an intermediate ball with realistic arc...and he doesn't. Coupled with the (less egregious than they used to be) super-jumping LBs and CBs, this is an INT.

4) I have a brain fart and push the wrong button. Somehow this happens more than I'd like to admit.
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Old 02-26-2015, 01:37 PM   #13
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This sounds like a strong innovative strategy. Could you give a newb some tips?
1.) Before the snap identify a check down route such as a RB route to the flat. If the guy you want to hit isnt open, don't force it to him, just check it down or throw it away and live to play another down.

2.) Identify the defensive coverage before the snap. This takes some practice, but by seeing how the DB's line up it will eventually become obvious to you. My progression depends heavily on what coverage I am facing.

3.) Jello's comment on camera is key. At a minimum, try the 'Wide' camera so you can see the whole field easier.

4.) Try throwing throwing shorter routes more often. These can still create big plays with some frequency with good YAC. When the ball isn't in the air as long the defense has less time to get to it.

5.) Teach yourself to let go of the left stick entirely. A lot of new players will hold back on the left stick and drop back for an eternity every play. When you do that, you throw off your back foot, which causes inaccurate passes.
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Old 02-26-2015, 02:04 PM   #14
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What I have done to really improve my passing game is pick 5 versatile pass plays, and only 5 plays, to have in my playbook. I practiced these 5 plays so that I know what different defenses look like against them, and what my progression should be against each look.

For example, one of my favorite plays is Mesh out of a bunch look. I can run this play and get a completion, no matter what the defense does, as long as I read the defense correctly.


Against zone defenses, the triangle created by the "X" "RB" and "B" routes should always give you an open receiver. Against man defense "B" on the corner route or "X" on the cross are often open.
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1.) Before the snap identify a check down route

4.) Try throwing throwing shorter routes more often.

5.) Teach yourself to let go of the left stick entirely.

For me the 3 items quoted above are integral in a successful passing game.

1. Before the play, I identify the 1st target, even if it is not the orange route (often dependent upon coverage). I also identify the 2nd and 3rd targets.

4. It is imperative to have success in the short-passing game before going deep. Likewise, going deep on successive plays will likely prove unfruitful.

5. I don't even bother with the left stick, nor to watch what is happening at the line of scrimmage. Let the automatic QB drop-back animation play out. In my experience, once you've assumed control (i.e., touched the left-stick), the OL blocking is more likely to break down. Check the coverage as the play unfolds. Do a check down. Is no targets are open, only then will I direct my attention to the pocket. Upon first glance, if there is opportunity to scramble, I will. If not, press the right stick and throw it away.

I've got to emphasize directing attention toward the receivers and away from the pocket and also not manipulating the left stick until it is appropriate to scramble. Sure, there will be instances when the QB is sacked because I was not focused on the pocket--maybe it could have been avoided--but, an honest sack is preferable to an INT.
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Old 02-26-2015, 04:03 PM   #16
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2) I still assume my QBs can put touch and loft on a deep ball...which they almost never do. My receiver may be open over the top, but if I can't get the ball over the defender, it doesn't matter.

I don't have this issue at all. I mainly throw short routes (my QB is almost always 1st in comp % and last in YPC) but most of my big plays are on bombs deep. If my guy gets a step or two on the corner and there's no safety help I simply push up on the LS to lead him deep and tap his button. This results in a nice high, deep lob that only my receiver can catch. Sometimes I overshoot him, but that obviously better than throwing it short where the corner is.

On another note, I guess I'll add that I'm another one that doesn't control the QB while he's in the pocket.


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