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Wreckroom · 07-13-2004, 03:57 PM

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ManBeast77 said:
Instead of sitting here bashing EA, why dont you guys try some different things because it seems alot of people have found thier own solutions to the problem! I understand this stuff should not happen but why dont you try to look for a solution as others are doing!

Im not bashing EA, infact I am an EA fanatic...But this is an issue that can't be overlooked...The framerate issues I am having are atrocious...The difference between practice mode and regular games is night/day...For you guys with XBOX's saying you "don't" or "have solved" the framerate issues can you please compare practice mode play to regular game play for me?

The bottom line is it seems to be a programming issue with the crowd...Because the way the game runs in practice mode is absolutely flawless, hell if there was a way to disable the crowd I would do it to play this game the way it should be played...

CheckMate · 07-13-2004, 04:06 PM

Once I put the game on classic cam I haven't had any framerate issues at all.

jkf12321 · 07-13-2004, 04:08 PM

Are you guys with non-HD TV's sure you switched the graphics from widescreen to normal IN the XBox? I mean, it's an option actually in the XBox menu when you turn it on.

tinman · 07-13-2004, 04:08 PM

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colkilla said:
i haven't noticed slowdown on a regular tv at all so this may work, on a side note, i have gotten the "dirty disc error" twice and i have never gotten it before on any game, i have a launch xbox, anyone have any suggestions? is it the game or the 'box? thanks for any help!

I have a launch xbox as well, never had any problems with dirty disc errors either, but I yet to make it through a single game with out getting a dirty disc error. My game is even getting the disc error messages on the menu screens. I ordered mine from gamespot.com and it sounds like the only way to return it is to send it back in the mail. I'll be picking up a new copy later tonight and hopefully that will solve my problems. Don't want to have to buy a new box.
It sucks too because I have the day off today and my fiance isn't home so I thought I'd have the entire day to play the game. And now I can't go more than ten minutes without a dirty disc error.

We do seem to be in the minority here as everyone else is having slowdown issues.

Philstat · 07-13-2004, 04:15 PM

I've got a brand new XBOX (about 3 months old) and playing on a 27inch Zenith HDTV C27V36 and playing in 4x3 at 480p and I noticed this game plays smooth but very slow. I don't get choppiness yet it's a consistent speed, it's hard to try and make a quick cut or move, it feels as your commands are delayed, dissapointing to say the least. I went to EB today and played the XBOX version on a 20inch JVC Analog TV and it played the same way, very hard to get used to it, actually played somewhat slower, the sales clerk stated it was an old console (original launch, with older drive) this has plagued EA for some reason. This happened with March Madness last year for the XBOX as well. I'm seriously debating on what to do, it just doesn't feel natural, I love the game but it takes some getting used to with the slow speed. Surprising for a game that has used the same game engine for the last three years!

rmacteague · 07-13-2004, 04:20 PM

Philstat you sure that the "consistent slowdown" is not intended. Remember that EA intended to slow down Gameplay for realistic/sim reasons this year.

quietcool72 · 07-13-2004, 04:20 PM

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Philstat said:
I've got a brand new XBOX (about 3 months old) and playing on a 27inch Zenith HDTV C27V36 and playing in 4x3 at 480p and I noticed this game plays smooth but very slow. I don't get choppiness yet it's a consistent speed, it's hard to try and make a quick cut or move, it feels as your commands are delayed, dissapointing to say the least. I went to EB today and played the XBOX version on a 20inch JVC Analog TV and it played the same way, very hard to get used to it, actually played somewhat slower, the sales clerk stated it was an old console (original launch, with older drive) this has plagued EA for some reason. This happened with March Madness last year for the XBOX as well. I'm seriously debating on what to do, it just doesn't feel natural, I love the game but it takes some getting used to with the slow speed. Surprising for a game that has used the same game engine for the last three years!

Why hasn't EA- of all companies, not figured this out. Other graphically inense games have no slowdown, or issues with first or mid-run XBOXes (Ninja Gaiden comes to mind, etc)

bangpow · 07-13-2004, 04:21 PM

Dude, the slowdown isn't intended. I do think the game plays a little slower, but the slowdown is pretty bad.

07-13-2004, 03:57 PM	#49
Wreckroom Rookie OVR: 1 Join Date: Oct 2002	Re: I FIGURE OUT THE SLOWDOWN PROBLEM(ITS FIXABLE) Quote: *ManBeast77 said:* Instead of sitting here bashing EA, why dont you guys try some different things because it seems alot of people have found thier own solutions to the problem! I understand this stuff should not happen but why dont you try to look for a solution as others are doing! Im not bashing EA, infact I am an EA fanatic...But this is an issue that can't be overlooked...The framerate issues I am having are atrocious...The difference between practice mode and regular games is night/day...For you guys with XBOX's saying you "don't" or "have solved" the framerate issues can you please compare practice mode play to regular game play for me? The bottom line is it seems to be a programming issue with the crowd...Because the way the game runs in practice mode is absolutely flawless, hell if there was a way to disable the crowd I would do it to play this game the way it should be played...

07-13-2004, 04:06 PM	#50
CheckMate All Star OVR: 14 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Akron, OH	Re: I FIGURE OUT THE SLOWDOWN PROBLEM(ITS FIXABLE) Once I put the game on classic cam I haven't had any framerate issues at all.

07-13-2004, 04:08 PM	#51
jkf12321 Rookie OVR: 1 Join Date: May 2004	Re: I FIGURE OUT THE SLOWDOWN PROBLEM(ITS FIXABLE) Are you guys with non-HD TV's sure you switched the graphics from widescreen to normal IN the XBox? I mean, it's an option actually in the XBox menu when you turn it on.

07-13-2004, 04:08 PM	#52
tinman Rookie OVR: 5 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germantown, MD	Re: I FIGURE OUT THE SLOWDOWN PROBLEM(ITS FIXABLE) Quote: *colkilla said:* i haven't noticed slowdown on a regular tv at all so this may work, on a side note, i have gotten the "dirty disc error" twice and i have never gotten it before on any game, i have a launch xbox, anyone have any suggestions? is it the game or the 'box? thanks for any help! I have a launch xbox as well, never had any problems with dirty disc errors either, but I yet to make it through a single game with out getting a dirty disc error. My game is even getting the disc error messages on the menu screens. I ordered mine from gamespot.com and it sounds like the only way to return it is to send it back in the mail. I'll be picking up a new copy later tonight and hopefully that will solve my problems. Don't want to have to buy a new box. It sucks too because I have the day off today and my fiance isn't home so I thought I'd have the entire day to play the game. And now I can't go more than ten minutes without a dirty disc error. We do seem to be in the minority here as everyone else is having slowdown issues.

07-13-2004, 04:15 PM	#53
Philstat Pro OVR: 5 Join Date: Oct 2002	Re: I FIGURE OUT THE SLOWDOWN PROBLEM(ITS FIXABLE) I've got a brand new XBOX (about 3 months old) and playing on a 27inch Zenith HDTV C27V36 and playing in 4x3 at 480p and I noticed this game plays smooth but very slow. I don't get choppiness yet it's a consistent speed, it's hard to try and make a quick cut or move, it feels as your commands are delayed, dissapointing to say the least. I went to EB today and played the XBOX version on a 20inch JVC Analog TV and it played the same way, very hard to get used to it, actually played somewhat slower, the sales clerk stated it was an old console (original launch, with older drive) this has plagued EA for some reason. This happened with March Madness last year for the XBOX as well. I'm seriously debating on what to do, it just doesn't feel natural, I love the game but it takes some getting used to with the slow speed. Surprising for a game that has used the same game engine for the last three years!

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07-13-2004, 04:20 PM	#54
rmacteague Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: Nov 2002	Re: I FIGURE OUT THE SLOWDOWN PROBLEM(ITS FIXABLE) Philstat you sure that the "consistent slowdown" is not intended. Remember that EA intended to slow down Gameplay for realistic/sim reasons this year.

07-13-2004, 04:20 PM	#55
quietcool72 Pro OVR: 10 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pittsburgh	Re: I FIGURE OUT THE SLOWDOWN PROBLEM(ITS FIXABLE) Quote: *Philstat said:* I've got a brand new XBOX (about 3 months old) and playing on a 27inch Zenith HDTV C27V36 and playing in 4x3 at 480p and I noticed this game plays smooth but very slow. I don't get choppiness yet it's a consistent speed, it's hard to try and make a quick cut or move, it feels as your commands are delayed, dissapointing to say the least. I went to EB today and played the XBOX version on a 20inch JVC Analog TV and it played the same way, very hard to get used to it, actually played somewhat slower, the sales clerk stated it was an old console (original launch, with older drive) this has plagued EA for some reason. This happened with March Madness last year for the XBOX as well. I'm seriously debating on what to do, it just doesn't feel natural, I love the game but it takes some getting used to with the slow speed. Surprising for a game that has used the same game engine for the last three years! Why hasn't EA- of all companies, not figured this out. Other graphically inense games have no slowdown, or issues with first or mid-run XBOXes (Ninja Gaiden comes to mind, etc)

07-13-2004, 04:21 PM	#56
bangpow MVP OVR: 9 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dearborn, MI	Re: I FIGURE OUT THE SLOWDOWN PROBLEM(ITS FIXABLE) Dude, the slowdown isn't intended. I do think the game plays a little slower, but the slowdown is pretty bad.

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