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  • Krebstar
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    • May 2005
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    Official FIFA 14 Custom Team Tactics (AI) Thread

    FIFA 13 Thread: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ai-thread.html

    Okay boys, back for another year. Finally purchased the game, and have been playing around with team tactics. Overall, the AI plays much better out of the box this year, but it still lacks variety from team to team. You won't see a team posses you to death one game, and hammer you with long balls the next. So, these settings are all about correcting that.

    The AI automatically applies pressure better than last year, as well as holds possession a bit better. So, those were both taken into account.

    As for now, I'm using the default formations that come with the teams in the game.

    Also, at this point the goal is to have almost as many tactics as last year (28 is the max), but we could lower it and combine some if it's evident that they're just too similar to have different ones. However, from my time playing so far, 5-10 points on a setting does make a difference.

    As always, the main goal of these is to make teams play in a realistic manner that you would see in real life. That doesn't mean each team will play like their real-life counterpart, but should play in a realistic manner. If you see that a team should have a different tactic, don't just complain. Instead, say which you think it would be switched to.

    Spreadsheet is below, so far only containing England.

    FIFA 14 Realism Project Spreadsheet
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...3c&usp=sharing
    Last edited by Krebstar; 10-18-2013, 09:50 AM.
  • topside
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    • Sep 2009
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    #2
    Re: Official FIFA 14 Custom Team Tactics (AI) Thread

    You the man, thanks Kerb!

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    • Dazza1
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      • Oct 2013
      • 506

      #3
      Re: Official FIFA 14 Custom Team Tactics (AI) Thread

      For some reason no matter what i change in the team tactics(AI) the teams all still rather pass than have a shot or cross, im really getting frustrated and starting to enjoy the game less and less...How can i fix this situation and get the CPU teams to shot and cross more what ever i seem to change has no effect on the game!

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      • NaturalSelected
        Efficiency = Joy
        • Mar 2004
        • 1094

        #4
        Re: Official FIFA 14 Custom Team Tactics (AI) Thread

        Always one of the best threads of the year. Pumped for the FIFA 14 iteration - and here's hoping that all these work seamlessly on next gen.
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        • Gnemi
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          • Jan 2012
          • 1519

          #5
          Re: Official FIFA 14 Custom Team Tactics (AI) Thread

          Originally posted by Dazza1
          For some reason no matter what i change in the team tactics(AI) the teams all still rather pass than have a shot or cross, im really getting frustrated and starting to enjoy the game less and less...How can i fix this situation and get the CPU teams to shot and cross more what ever i seem to change has no effect on the game!
          In general, we'll all have to wait to see how the patch affects tactics. We can't be sure just how much was altered by EA with this patch, but give it a few weeks and we can start to make really meaningful tactics.

          As such, I started my career with the ability to change my opponent's tactics and I'll rely on that probably for most of the season for FIFA '14.

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          • Krebstar
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            • May 2005
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            #6
            Re: Official FIFA 14 Custom Team Tactics (AI) Thread

            Originally posted by Dazza1
            For some reason no matter what i change in the team tactics(AI) the teams all still rather pass than have a shot or cross, im really getting frustrated and starting to enjoy the game less and less...How can i fix this situation and get the CPU teams to shot and cross more what ever i seem to change has no effect on the game!
            It's either one of two things.

            You're either not using the saved squad file that has tactics adjusted in exhibition matches or in CM. In exhibition matches, you must turn off the gameday rosters or whatever they'll called. It's triangle on PS3, and Y on Xbox. If you don't do that, then you're playing with online rosters. In CM, when you start, you'll want to start with "current customized" rosters when you're setting up the game.

            Or the other thing is you don't like the settings, so you just need to just adjust the shooting and crossing settings in the tactics.

            I'm fairly happy with them now, but I also want teams to try and hold onto the ball more than I do. Unless they're a more direct team. Otherwise, players shouldn't always shoot when near goal. Often in real life players pass for what appears to be a better option.

            Play through a whole game (10 minutes halves at least) and see how many shots are taken. It may seem less than you're used to in FIFA, but that is good, as the teams play terribly with default settings. At least I think they do.

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            • Krebstar
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              #7
              Re: Official FIFA 14 Custom Team Tactics (AI) Thread

              Originally posted by Gnemi
              In general, we'll all have to wait to see how the patch affects tactics. We can't be sure just how much was altered by EA with this patch, but give it a few weeks and we can start to make really meaningful tactics.

              As such, I started my career with the ability to change my opponent's tactics and I'll rely on that probably for most of the season for FIFA '14.
              My gut says that the patch won't have too huge of an effect. They're tweaking the power of things like headers and what not, so I don't know if tactics will need to change.

              But we shall see. I'm enjoying the game so far with these.

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              • Gnemi
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                • Jan 2012
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                Re: Official FIFA 14 Custom Team Tactics (AI) Thread

                Hey Krebstar - quick question for you:

                In my career, when I assume control over the AI and manually select their Tactics before a match, will it remember the assignment not only for that match but also for the next time I play them?

                E.g. - I'm playing Arsenal, I switch them to Custom - Arsenal. Will it keep their tactics throughout my career as Custom - Arsenal?

                Furthermore, if I both edit *and* assign Custom - Arsenal, will my edits be kept as well when I play Arsenal in the future?

                I sure hope that makes sense and thanks in advance!

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                • Krebstar
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                  Re: Official FIFA 14 Custom Team Tactics (AI) Thread

                  Originally posted by Gnemi
                  Hey Krebstar - quick question for you:

                  In my career, when I assume control over the AI and manually select their Tactics before a match, will it remember the assignment not only for that match but also for the next time I play them?

                  E.g. - I'm playing Arsenal, I switch them to Custom - Arsenal. Will it keep their tactics throughout my career as Custom - Arsenal?

                  Furthermore, if I both edit *and* assign Custom - Arsenal, will my edits be kept as well when I play Arsenal in the future?

                  I sure hope that makes sense and thanks in advance!
                  Hate to say it, but I have no idea. I've only ever assigned all before starting a CM. Also, this year I got the game for the PS3, and I only have one controller.

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                  • Gnemi
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                    • Jan 2012
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                    #10
                    Re: Official FIFA 14 Custom Team Tactics (AI) Thread

                    Cool, no biggie. I wouldn't mind if I had to change my opponents tactics every single game to be honest. It takes roughly 15 seconds to do it.

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                    • Dogslax41
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                      • Aug 2003
                      • 1901

                      #11
                      Re: Official FIFA 14 Custom Team Tactics (AI) Thread

                      Originally posted by Gnemi
                      Cool, no biggie. I wouldn't mind if I had to change my opponents tactics every single game to be honest. It takes roughly 15 seconds to do it.
                      I would be willing to bet it won't save them. When you edit your own team on the match screen it doesn't save those changes. The only edits that lock in are the one done on the squads tab before you enter the match screen.

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                      • ultimatefighter
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                        • Sep 2011
                        • 1019

                        #12
                        Re: Official FIFA 14 Custom Team Tactics (AI) Thread

                        Hey Krebstar just wanted to ask a couple questions. Are using sliders or do sliders matter? And when I save them do I put them all on the same one and keep overwriting or how do I do that? Sorry new to tactics this year lol

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                        • Whomario
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                          • Oct 2010
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                          #13
                          Re: Official FIFA 14 Custom Team Tactics (AI) Thread

                          Originally posted by Dogslax41
                          I would be willing to bet it won't save them. When you edit your own team on the match screen it doesn't save those changes. The only edits that lock in are the one done on the squads tab before you enter the match screen.
                          They do save for the ongoing match though, right ? As a simple test, i changed the set piece taker of the cpu and all game long the guy i choose was the one doing the corners.

                          As was said, it´s no big deal to spend 15 seconds every game, even if it doesn´t save tactics for the next game but only the current one.

                          It´s also a good way to account for important squad changes. For example, if Barcelona´s midfield aces retire/decline and they happen to then feature great wingers and a great forward, you could change their tactic to feature more crosses.

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                          • Krebstar
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                            Re: Official FIFA 14 Custom Team Tactics (AI) Thread

                            Originally posted by ultimatefighter
                            Hey Krebstar just wanted to ask a couple questions. Are using sliders or do sliders matter? And when I save them do I put them all on the same one and keep overwriting or how do I do that? Sorry new to tactics this year lol
                            I'm currently using Orion's sliders. To me, sliders and at least 10 minute halves are a must for realism. Although I prefer 15 minute halves.

                            As for using and assigning, the first time you input them, save it. So if you start from the top of the list, you put in Arsenal's. So it'll save using Arsenal's name.

                            The next time you need to assign the same tactic to a different team, you assign the already saved tactic. So, another team will have a tactic named after another team, but it doesn't matter. Does that make sense?

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                            • Dogslax41
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                              #15
                              Re: Official FIFA 14 Custom Team Tactics (AI) Thread

                              Originally posted by Whomario
                              They do save for the ongoing match though, right ? As a simple test, i changed the set piece taker of the cpu and all game long the guy i choose was the one doing the corners.

                              As was said, it´s no big deal to spend 15 seconds every game, even if it doesn´t save tactics for the next game but only the current one.

                              It´s also a good way to account for important squad changes. For example, if Barcelona´s midfield aces retire/decline and they happen to then feature great wingers and a great forward, you could change their tactic to feature more crosses.
                              Yes they do save for that match. I basically use the pre match team management screen to make opponent specific adjustments and rotate back ups into the squad to get them playing time.

                              I use the main squad management tab before the match screen to set my starting 11 and their formations since that becomes in a sense my base that I can then use to edit in the pre match team management screen. Then when I rotate guys in or change my formation for a specific opponent on that pre match screen my changes only last for that game and then roll back to what I had previously set.

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