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Old 11-04-2014, 08:31 PM   #1
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DaBossa Assisted/Be a Pro/Play in position.

Hay i can finally post my own thread.

I have been posting on Orions excellent thread, as his is closest to my thinking.
But im also a believer in Matt10s speed logic.

Have been reading posts about speed, and have tried a few ideas. I have increased my speed from 10 to 20 and found that the bigger teams perform better. (Man Unt, City, Chelsea, Real etc..)

Acceleration: i like watching games at 52, but dont like "playing" at this setting. In Career Be a Pro (which i play), something feels off at 52 or even 50. Yes players close down faster, But attackers also burst into space quicker. I found too many penalties were being awarded (at least one a game).

Although im happy with my new sliders, i do have a few strange games (high scores), i cant figure out why. Ill have a run of 5 games of 1-0, 2-1 etc, then a 4-3 comes out of nowhere?

Only slight changes but here is where im at now... Updated Nov 10th.

Game: FIFA 15 xbox 360
Controls: Assisted/simi (im old be kind)
Difficulty: World Class (Be a Pro, play in position)
Halves: 10 Minutes
Speed: Slow

Game Sliders both the same (fair play - play in position)
Note: Human sliders affect ALL user team players!

Targets: 20 total shots, 50% on target, no more than 3 goals average.

Sprint: 20 (better teams seem to perform better - up from 10)
Acceleration: 49 (above 50 too many penalties?)
Shot Error: 58 (looking to get 50% on target) changed Nov 10th.
Pass Error: 50 (Remember this effects ground passes only! lower = crisp fast interpassing)
Shot Speed: 38 (to give keepers a chance to make saves)
Pass Speed: 42 (with extra speed and movement, slower speed helps defence)
Injury Frequency: 65
Injury Severity: 50 (trying to get length of injuries is about right. 3 months for broken ankle, 3 weeks for calf strain, 9 days for knocks)
GK Ability: 68
Marking: 52 (Like how the defence keeps its line at this setting)
Run Frequency: 37 (Dont want the midfield to empty out, but still want runs thru the defence line)
Line Height: 46 (to stop too many thru ball break aways)
Line Length: 50 (tried at 49 but felt in hampered the attack, more than it helped the defence)
Line Width: 56 (This effect the whole formation, not just the defence)
Fullbacks: 52 (No too far forward, average 15 passes a game, almost same as mid)
First Touch Control: 58 (changed Nov 10th)

I only check back every couple of days (off playing), but feed back and ideas welcome.

Things im still thinking about..
First touch control - feeling something may have changed with update, dribblers weren't performing so well as before.

Last edited by DaBossa; 11-09-2014 at 10:01 AM. Reason: Updated Nov 10th.
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Old 11-05-2014, 11:20 AM   #2
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Re: DaBossa Assisted/Be a Pro/Play in position.

unfortunately fifa player career mode is terrible so these sliders aren't that useful. Until ea makes an nba 2k style player career mode i honestly wouldn't bother with playing as one player
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Old 11-05-2014, 09:10 PM   #3
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Re: DaBossa Assisted/Be a Pro/Play in position.

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Hay i can finally post my own thread.

I have been posting on Orions excellent thread, as his is closest to my thinking.
But im also a believer in Matt10s speed logic.

Have been reading posts about speed, and have tried a few ideas. I have increased my speed from 10 to 20 and found that the bigger teams perform better. (Man Unt, City, Chelsea, Real etc..)

Acceleration: i like watching games at 52, but dont like "playing" at this setting. In Career Be a Pro (which i play), something feels off at 52 or even 50. Yes players close down faster, But attackers also burst into space quicker. I found too many penalties were being awarded (at least one a game).

Although im happy with my new sliders, i do have a few strange games (high scores), i cant figure out why. Ill have a run of 5 games of 1-0, 2-1 etc, then a 4-3 comes out of nowhere?

Only slight changes but here is where im at now...

Game: FIFA 15 xbox 360
Controls: Assisted/simi (im old be kind)
Difficulty: World Class (Be a Pro, play in position)
Halves: 10 Minutes
Speed: Slow

Game Sliders both the same (fair play - play in position)
Note: Human sliders affect ALL user team players!

Targets: 20 total shots, 50% on target, no more than 3 goals average.

Sprint: 20 (better teams seem to perform better - up from 10)
Acceleration: 49 (above 50 too many penalties?)
Shot Error: 59 (looking to get 50% on target)
Pass Error: 50 (Remember this effects ground passes only! lower = crisp fast interpassing)
Shot Speed: 38 (to give keepers a chance to make saves)
Pass Speed: 42 (with extra speed and movement, slower speed helps defence)
Injury Frequency: 65
Injury Severity: 65 (length of injuries is about right. 3 months for broken ankle, 3 weeks for calf strain, 9 days for knocks)
GK Ability: 68
Marking: 52 (Like how the defence keeps its line at this setting)
Run Frequency: 37 (Dont want the midfield to empty out, but still want runs thru the defence line)
Line Height: 46 (to stop too many thru ball break aways)
Line Length: 50 (tried at 49 but felt in hampered the attack, more than it helped the defence)
Line Width: 56 (This effect the whole formation, not just the defence)
Fullbacks: 52 (No too far forward, average 15 passes a game, almost same as mid)
First Touch Control: 60 (this will stop too much crazy dribbling and Tiki Taka passing)

I only check back every couple of days (off playing), but feed back and ideas welcome.

Things im still thinking about..

Acceleration: does this effect keepers getting into position? keepers seem to play better at 52?
Pass Speed: how much does this effect how efficiently defences/Keepers can get in good positions?
Hey Dabossa,
The way you post the sliders I can't tell what's human and cpu. about postin like this:
slider human / cpu

I play that mode too as CAM for Leicester city EPL. in my 2nd season. looks like we're the only 2 people who play that way. I like Orion better based on what's he's looking for. realistic stats at end of game. and most importantly reduce # of goals making it worth while when u do score a gool.
Matt seem to be more about speed setting, mid field battle. I ended using a combo. right now i"m using the set they worked on together. I aways tweak the shoot and pass accuracy to fit my style and the way I want my team to look.
my question is how many games played with slider ? also How do u like playing 10min vs 15min?? I want to switch but worry I wont progress my player quick enough or get enough chances in the game. one the plus side I would play more game and advance my CM faster. your thoughts please ??? If have time I may try yours this weekend. I don't test sliders which is why I appreciate all the work being done one those forums. But don't like inj severity and speed. feel like my player would be too slow. I like the speed diference I have right now.

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Old 11-08-2014, 10:26 AM   #4
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The way you post the sliders I can't tell what's human and cpu.
Both sets are the same because I "Play in Position" - this is so my team gets no advantages (other than me lol) (as stated in the original post)

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I like Orion better based on what's he's looking for. realistic stats at end of game. and most importantly reduce # of goals making it worth while when u do score a gool.
Yup i was posting on his thread - i also use his as a guide, his thinking is very close to my own.

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my question is how many games played with slider ?
Im in my third season - Played about 140 games, watched about 50 - since update played around 20.

Sliders have not changed much (you can find my first post in Orions thread)


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How do u like playing 10min vs 15min?? I want to switch but worry I wont progress my player quick enough or get enough chances in the game.
I prefer 10 min halfs - these sliders meet my targets of 20 shots etc...
I do try tweaks now and then, Ive only just increased Speed to 20 from 10, and this change appears to have benefited the better teams.

Im about to try lowering Control to 58, while increasing acceleration back to 50. I want quick skillful players to be - quick and skillful. I just cant seem to find that mix of good Def and chances being created when Acceleration is at 50 or above.
As for development - started my Career in the English League 1 with Crawley Town,(AM Box to Box). Started at 64 overall. after 60 odd games in the first season, my overall was 77 - now in my third season im a 82 in my second season with Everton.
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Old 11-09-2014, 09:51 AM   #5
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Re: DaBossa Assisted/Be a Pro/Play in position.

Have played 5 games with the few small changes, and im very happy with the results.

Games:
Away at Bayern Munich champions league - very tough game, they had 58% possession, shots 14/7, on target 8/4, tackles 8/11 and score 1-0 loss.

Away at Leicester Premier league, we were the stronger team but was a good contest. Possession 56/44, Shots 13/7, on target 6/4, Tackles 7/9, score 2-1 win.

Away at Charlton FA Cup - all over them they were a much weaker team. Possession 57/43, Shots 18/4, On target 7/1 (we were poor), tackles 9/7, score 2-0 win.

Final League Cup v Arsenal - very good game. possession was 51/49, shots 14/12, on target 8/7, Tackles 8/8, 1-0 win.
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Old 11-10-2014, 10:13 AM   #6
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Re: DaBossa Assisted/Be a Pro/Play in position.

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Both sets are the same because I "Play in Position" - this is so my team gets no advantages (other than me lol) (as stated in the original post)


Yup i was posting on his thread - i also use his as a guide, his thinking is very close to my own.


Im in my third season - Played about 140 games, watched about 50 - since update played around 20.

Sliders have not changed much (you can find my first post in Orions thread)



I prefer 10 min halfs - these sliders meet my targets of 20 shots etc...
I do try tweaks now and then, Ive only just increased Speed to 20 from 10, and this change appears to have benefited the better teams.

Im about to try lowering Control to 58, while increasing acceleration back to 50. I want quick skillful players to be - quick and skillful. I just cant seem to find that mix of good Def and chances being created when Acceleration is at 50 or above.
As for development - started my Career in the English League 1 with Crawley Town,(AM Box to Box). Started at 64 overall. after 60 odd games in the first season, my overall was 77 - now in my third season im a 82 in my second season with Everton.
I also play this mode myself (Career Mode - Be A Player), but one thing you mentioned made me pause -- you said you played 140 games ** and watched about 50 **. Is it possible to watch a game in this mode and not control your player? Sometimes I'd like to do that for an easy game or two vs a team at the bottom of the table.

Can you clarify is that is what you are doing and if so, how you make that happen?

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Old 11-11-2014, 06:04 AM   #7
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if you want to watch and not play in Be a Pro - asked to be subbed - watch rest of game.

But what i mean by watched games is out of CM, using the play now - dont select a side to play - just watch. You can however test tactics, or as i have done make both teams use the same tactics to test ideas.

For example; when the discussion about pass error effecting the types of passing was going on. I created a neutral tactic (50s) and watched. then adjusted the pass error down, then up - and watched. Then adjusted the passing tactic style up (60), and then down (40) to see what changed.

Thus ruled out pass error affecting the types of passes being made in the way most seemed to think, but confirming that lower pass error increased the crispness of ground passing - just as it says it does (lol)

Ive just finished another play session trying the very high touch error (90+). I didnt like the way it hurt good high tempo, high skilled teams like Arsenal, Man City etc.

Have continued my Career using above settings and am continuing to have good competitive games, Won the return leg against Munich in another very tough game, and struggled to a 1-1 draw away to Man City.

Looked at my Achievements today and im at 169 Career games played.

(Orions) Discussion on lower pass speed - i did say on my first post, that i was think/asking what others thought about lower pass speeds helping defenders/Keepers get into better positions. Dropping as low as 30 seems to low to me. Im at 42 and have tried at 40, but something didn't feel right at 40, it felt like the better passing teams became overpowered?
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Just had the best game v Borussia Dortmund at home.

We (Everton) just couldn't keep the ball, they were all over us.

Possession 51-49 - to them but it didn't feel like it. relentless pressing causing turn overs.
Shots 17-4 to them.
Ontarget 8-1
tackles 8-11.

Score 2-0 to them. Our keeper had a very good game.

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