FIFA release date is getting frustrating

[TheDutchDad]

The fact Ronaldo and Messi both score a ridiculous amount of goals each year in La Liga is enough for me to scoff at La Liga. Aside from a few top teams, La Liga is pretty weak the rest of the way through.

This is one reason I would love to see Messi play in England. I want to see what he can do there. Would love to see Ronaldo back in England as well.

[Altimus]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mercurial23

The fact Ronaldo and Messi both score a ridiculous amount of goals each year in La Liga is enough for me to scoff at La Liga. Aside from a few top teams, La Liga is pretty weak the rest of the way through. This is one reason I would love to see Messi play in England. I want to see what he can do there. Would love to see Ronaldo back in England as well.

Yet the last 4 champions in the last 2 years for the UEFA CL and UEFA Europa have been... Spanish teams. Yes Barca and RM have won 2 of those but a lot of the Spanish teams as of late have done much better then EPL teams in both leagues.

EPL is my primary league but I watch a ton of La Liga as well and there isn't much to scoff at.

[Paul21694]

Between 2005 and 2012 at least one English team played in every Champions League final other than 2010.

2005 Liverpool (W)
2006 Arsenal (L)
2007 Liverpool (L)
2008 United and Chelsea
2009 United (L)
2011 United (L)
2012 Chelsea (W)

La Liga tends to be a lot more helpful towards their teams in Europe too. They allow them longer rest before and after European games and of course, a winter break just in time for the knockout stages.

[guayo10]

Valencia makes it 5 La Liga teams in the Champions, no biggie.

[guayo10]

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul21694

Between 2005 and 2012 at least one English team played in every Champions League final other than 2010. 2005 Liverpool (W) 2006 Arsenal (L) 2007 Liverpool (L) 2008 United and Chelsea 2009 United (L) 2011 United (L) 2012 Chelsea (W) La Liga tends to be a lot more helpful towards their teams in Europe too. They allow them longer rest before and after European games and of course, a winter break just in time for the knockout stages.

yeah and Real Madrid won every Champions League before 1970. Going back a 10 years is a long time in the world of football. As the cycles tend to be short and sweet, ask Leeds.

Since 1999/2000
La Liga Winners (Finalists)
7 (10)
2 times the final was Spain v Spain
Valencia lost to Bayern in PKs in 00-01
BPL Winners (Finalists)
3 (8)
All 3 wins were from PKs
Once was the final England v England

Now more recent stuff lets go 10/11
CL
La Liga
3 (4)
Only loss came from a Spain v Spain final
BPL
1 (2)
Chelsea beat Bayern in PKs
United lost to well Barça

Since 2000 in the finals
La Liga is 3-0 against the BPL

Europa League Since 99/00
La Liga Winners (Finalists)
7(10)
Spain v Spain 2 times
Sevilla has won the last 2
BPL Winners (Finalists)
2 (5)
0 England v England

Since 10/11
La Liga
3 (4)
1 Spain v Spain
BPL
1 (1)

Since 2000
La Liga is 2-1 in finals against the BPL

[Altimus]

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul21694

Between 2005 and 2012 at least one English team played in every Champions League final other than 2010. 2005 Liverpool (W) 2006 Arsenal (L) 2007 Liverpool (L) 2008 United and Chelsea 2009 United (L) 2011 United (L) 2012 Chelsea (W) La Liga tends to be a lot more helpful towards their teams in Europe too. They allow them longer rest before and after European games and of course, a winter break just in time for the knockout stages.

Yes but none since 2012 and last year no English teams made it to the quarter finals. Liverpool didn't even make it out of the group stage.

[guayo10]

Even with the run the English teams (Liverpool, Forest, Villa) had from 76-82, Spanish teams have more final appearances in the tourney at 25 (I'd argue due to the recent play of the teams). Italy the most at 30 and England has 19. Only 2 more than ze Germans. And let me tell you Bayern may singlehandedly catch up to England by 2020.

If we're talking recent history or since the turn of the century La Liga > BPL in European competitions, no question about it.

Since 2000 La Liga teams have only lost 2 finals out of 10 (Champions + Europa) in which the opponent wasn't a La Liga team. THAT'S NUTS. They have a 5-1 record against English teams in the finals.

[number1thumbs]