Had every version since ISS on Snes. Your apology is accepted.
I don't like this years it's just to end to end for me
For 18 I'd like to see better presentation, green grass - not grey or brown, more stadiums & better foot implanting.
Pes does somethings well but overall package lets it down. I'd love to see both have big visual overhaul. They've looked the same the last few years.
Def agree on the PES points but IMO FIFA 17 looks markedly better than 16. It's just hard for footy games to look as good as games like the Show/2K/Madden because of the zoomed out angle most people, including myself, play on.