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I'd argue training is worse. And youth is still just as bad as its ever been.
And not mentioning the two you did, practice and carousel...
In the PS2/3 days we had:
Sponsors
Stadium management
Financial management (ticket pricing etc)
A staff
You could upgrade/improve/hire new staff
Additional funds requests to the board
Playing friendlies, and choosing who you play.
Form of a player used to mean something.
Internal memos, which were emails from fans, staff and board talking about how things were going, etc. Not just the cut/dry stuff we have now, and how you reacted effected the teams form/morale.
Loan to buy offers when making a transfer.
At one point there was an XP system and you could train players to improve how you wanted.
End of season awards, team of the season.
Transfer sagas, players unhappy and asking to leave.
This is just off the top of my head.
All of that was in the game from 05-13, and all had been removed by 14.
If we still had this stuff, yes combined with the minimal things they've done, it would be amazing. But as it stands now its very flat and not very engaging.
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Firstly, that's a HELL of a list off the top of your head.
They def removed some of those things to make disc space for other modes, stadiums, etc... but a lot of those things you mentioned were terribly broken and/or sacrificed for realism/legal issues.
There's no way that say, Chelsea, would EVER let you change their main kit sponsor. To be honest, I'm kinda surprised that PES still allows for option files for this same reason. Same thing with the stadium management, I don't think, with all the work they've put in for recreating stadiums, that they would let you add another 20k seats to Stamford Bridge. Maybe one of their generic stadiums though.
A staff would cool, at least a technical director although you could say that the scouts (global/youth) sort of comprise one.
I always thought asking for additional funds was kind of unrealistic. You'd go to the board while you're sitting top of the table and ask them for millions more for winning the league when it should be expected of you at that point.
I think I'd rather have these preseason tournaments (FIFA 19 does them MORE right than PES 2019) than the older preseason friendlies but it would be a cool feature to bring back.
Form still does mean something in FIFA, just not to the extremes of PES. I wish there was a chemistry/team spirit/team cohesion rating in FIFA though. A team like 15/16 Leicester is basically impossible in FIFA.
Loan to buys would be cool but the transfer/loan system is MILES ahead of what it used to be. You used to have to pray that someone would take your kids on loan but so far in my test '19 CM I've seen players ask for loans to get more minutes and in-general haven't had any issues loaning out ~70 OVR rated players or so.
That old training system was highly exploitable. You could train a player in his late twenties and make him find the fountain of youth.
Transfer sagas still happen. I've had plenty of players force moves out over the years in FIFA. I've had the board sell players because the profits were too good to turn down.
CM definitely could and should be better but a lot of the work was behind-the-scenes (getting transfers right, addressing CPU roster management which used to be horrible, etc...).