Hardcore Passing/Pass Assist?

**b3organ** · 03-26-2010, 04:24 AM

Re: Hardcore Passing/Pass Assist?

Emerica, I don't have my game now available for testing but if I remember right...

If you turn on pass assist (even 1 notch) then passing in general becomes "not-manual" so what you are experiencing is "normal" passing. And it doesn't have that "lag" (=time it takes pass to leave your stick). So, without testing I agree with your thoughts.

Again, if you turn the manual passing on it will "turn off" the pass assist slider and then the passing becomes "slow".

Qb · 03-26-2010, 07:24 AM

Re: Hardcore Passing/Pass Assist?

Manual passing is an option within hardcore settings, so it is possible to play hardcore without manual passing. Having assist @ 1 will give you the most freedom in aiming your pass without going manual. However, you will lose the ability to control the speed of your passes (ie, holding the button for harder pass). But it sounds like you don't like that aspect anyways.

**JKidd10** · 03-26-2010, 12:46 PM

Re: Hardcore Passing/Pass Assist?

I might go to hardcore manual passing,but i also don't like the delay, especially when u need to get the pass off quick.

Qb · 03-26-2010, 02:56 PM

Re: Hardcore Passing/Pass Assist?

Do you guys getting delay have the patch and tuner updates? I thought it improved a lot after the patch (it was one of the mentioned changes). Also, make sure you're pressing the trigger all the way in, as a full press -- even if it's quick -- results in a fairly hard pass. It's the softer not-all-the-way-in (wow, that sounds bad) trigger pulls that result in the soft passes. Which can be good in certain situations, too.

**emericaridr11** · 03-26-2010, 03:27 PM

Re: Hardcore Passing/Pass Assist?

Originally posted by Qb

Do you guys getting delay have the patch and tuner updates? I thought it improved a lot after the patch (it was one of the mentioned changes). Also, make sure you're pressing the trigger all the way in, as a full press -- even if it's quick -- results in a fairly hard pass. It's the softer not-all-the-way-in (wow, that sounds bad) trigger pulls that result in the soft passes. Which can be good in certain situations, too.

Ya I am not a Fan of having to Hold the Button in, I noticed when I first got the game that if you press the Button Good and Hard (all the way in) then the pass is Harder.

It just seemed to me that with Pass Assist on 1 that the delayed button press got Reduced DRAMATICALLY. Which is good I want to be able to Control my passes (Hardness, and Location of pass) with out having to hold the Pass Button for longer than IMO you should have to.

Its just a Setting that I played with once and didnt think to go back to that setting. But now I think that it might be my new Pass Setting, I want to use Manual Passing but everytime I try it I get frustrated cause of the "Button Lag".

**jsquigg** · 03-26-2010, 03:34 PM

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Maybe QB and I are just delusional, but I am able to get passes off very quickly with manual passing. There is nothing like seeing a perfect finesse drop pass between the legs hit the stick of a teammate and get shelved.

**emericaridr11** · 03-26-2010, 03:55 PM

Re: Hardcore Passing/Pass Assist?

Originally posted by jsquigg

Maybe QB and I are just delusional, but I am able to get passes off very quickly with manual passing. There is nothing like seeing a perfect finesse drop pass between the legs hit the stick of a teammate and get shelved.

you guys must just be used to it, I CANT STAND IT.

I play Real Ice Hockey and I before I can think PASS my pass is already on the Other Guys Stick.

Just seems Unrealistic to have to hold the Button for even a half sec and by then your Time has been cut down so much that your pass gets EASILY Intercepted cause it took too long to leave the stick, Might just be my EXPERIENCES though. (im sure others dont feel the same way)

Im going to try Pass Assist at 1 and Pass Accuracy to 1 and see if I like it.

I LOVE the Freedom of manual passes but HATE the way I have to work the Pass Button to get the PASS you want. So if I can eliminate the so called "Lag" and still have that Manual Passing feel (without having to HOLD the Button) then I WILL BE IN A WHOLE NEW STAGE OF MY NHL PLAYING.... and will be so happy

Im going to try it Later

THANKS FOR THE COMMENTS KEEP THEM COMING, ANY INFO OR EXPERIENCE HELPS ME AT THIS POINT

**JKidd10** · 03-27-2010, 09:54 PM

Re: Hardcore Passing/Pass Assist?

Originally posted by Qb

Do you guys getting delay have the patch and tuner updates? I thought it improved a lot after the patch (it was one of the mentioned changes). Also, make sure you're pressing the trigger all the way in, as a full press -- even if it's quick -- results in a fairly hard pass. It's the softer not-all-the-way-in (wow, that sounds bad) trigger pulls that result in the soft passes. Which can be good in certain situations, too.

Ya i got the latest tuner set and hardcore passing is great.I guess the last time i used it was before the patch,lol its so much better now.

**emericaridr11** · 03-27-2010, 10:52 PM

Re: Hardcore Passing/Pass Assist?

Originally posted by Qb

Do you guys getting delay have the patch and tuner updates? I thought it improved a lot after the patch (it was one of the mentioned changes). Also, make sure you're pressing the trigger all the way in, as a full press -- even if it's quick -- results in a fairly hard pass. It's the softer not-all-the-way-in (wow, that sounds bad) trigger pulls that result in the soft passes. Which can be good in certain situations, too.

Ya I have all the Goodies, Patch, Tuner, Rosters, and even Music (not that it matters)

How long have you guys been using Manual Passing for?

Maybe I should try it for like a whole Season and get used to it a little (it might be a rough Season but I love the Challenging ones)

Any thoughts?
Use Pass Assist on but Lowest Value (with Pass Accuracy being 1) for a whole Season (82 games no Sim)?
or
Use Manual Passing On (Pass Accuracy 1) for a whole Season?

**emericaridr11** · 03-27-2010, 10:57 PM

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(Patch) I thought they just changed the "Top" Pass Speed for Manual Passing to be Harder and Faster, I didn't know they changed the Time it takes for the Puck to leave your Stick. did they?

**b3organ** · 03-28-2010, 03:53 AM

Re: Hardcore Passing/Pass Assist?

Originally posted by emericaridr11

Any thoughts?
Use Pass Assist on but Lowest Value (with Pass Accuracy being 1) for a whole Season (82 games no Sim)?
or
Use Manual Passing On (Pass Accuracy 1) for a whole Season?

Definetely if you're up to the challenge the manual passing is worth of trying. I haven't played offline for ages (maybe two weeks) but when I last used it the feeling is that it gives you nearly a new game. If the game becomes too quick because of that lag you're experiencing put (overall) game speed a tad slower. Once you get hooked on that feeling you can actually pass where you will there's no coming back.

**emericaridr11** · 03-28-2010, 03:48 PM

Re: Hardcore Passing/Pass Assist?

Originally posted by b3organ

Definetely if you're up to the challenge the manual passing is worth of trying. I haven't played offline for ages (maybe two weeks) but when I last used it the feeling is that it gives you nearly a new game. If the game becomes too quick because of that lag you're experiencing put (overall) game speed a tad slower. Once you get hooked on that feeling you can actually pass where you will there's no coming back.

Thats what Ive heard

**BodamEscapePlan** · 03-29-2010, 05:29 AM

Re: Hardcore Passing/Pass Assist?

Originally posted by jsquigg

Maybe QB and I are just delusional, but I am able to get passes off very quickly with manual passing. There is nothing like seeing a perfect finesse drop pass between the legs hit the stick of a teammate and get shelved.

As far as my experiments go (I too play ice hockey) I'm not a big fan of pass assist at all. I like the control the manual passing gives me to make crisp, hard passes. I feel even with it set at 1 or 0 it makes the players get the puck off still way too quickly and it still kind of has that delayed 'auto-aim' esque thing if you will. At least, that's how it feels to me.

I'll try a game tomorrow again with it, I think I only tried it with patch 1.02 but since 1.03 is out maybe it's better. I'll report to you with my info later in the day around 6-7 after I get off.

**BodamEscapePlan** · 03-29-2010, 05:33 AM

Re: Hardcore Passing/Pass Assist?

Originally posted by emericaridr11

(Patch) I thought they just changed the "Top" Pass Speed for Manual Passing to be Harder and Faster, I didn't know they changed the Time it takes for the Puck to leave your Stick. did they?

In that case, yes the manual passing has been refined. It's definitely day and night if you've played with manual on your entire time with NHL 10.

Enjoy!!!

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