Rogie Vachon`s AllStar Sliders v1.00 -all modes

**Lordofthething** · 09-26-2010, 12:34 AM

Re: ** Rogie Vachon`s AllStar Sliders v1.00 -all modes **

Hey Rogie, I was wondering why you put shot power higher for human, I've seen this in a few slider sets and it doesn't make sense to me, unless you're just trying to reduce cpu goals...I don't find their shots are harder when the shot power sliders are equal....

and on a second point, I didn't consider looking at your sliders until you responded to my post because of the title of your thread....I think when you put v1.00 people initially think you're using tuner set 1.00...

**Lordofthething** · 09-26-2010, 12:36 AM

Re: ** Rogie Vachon`s AllStar Sliders v1.00 -all modes **

lol, sorry, you ARE using tuner 1.00...I actually try and use the most current tuner with the assumption that it will improve gameplay...which isn't always the case, but just the same, I like to use the current tuner and adjust my sliders from there...

**vader999** · 09-26-2010, 01:04 AM

Re: ** Rogie Vachon`s AllStar Sliders v1.00 -all modes **

I posted this over on my thread earlier but I'll say it again just for the heck of it.

I've played a few games with your sliders. Mostly on playoff mode. Pretty good so far although I made some changes.

Shot Aim-Auto
Pass Assist-3 I was having trouble working the puck around in the offensive zone.
Hitting Assist-3
Hitting Power-3/0 The disparity of hits in favor of the CPU seemed ridiculous before I made this adjustment.

I'll let you how these changes continue to work out.

**Rogie Vachon** · 09-26-2010, 01:05 AM

Re: ** Rogie Vachon`s AllStar Sliders v1.00 -all modes **

Yes,..I`m using the unadulterated tuner v1.00

All the other tuners ripped the heart out of the game.

To answer the shot power question.....

I`ve always kept sliders the same for humans/cpu in the past,...(..and I`ve played everything,....I`m a gamer since I was a kid,......I`m a video game fossil.)
Always kept them the same,...

But with NHL 11,it`s different kettle of fish.....

For the shooting,....that is something you may have to try out for a number of games to see how it works for you,....and drop it some if you feel it`s the thing to do.I may nudge down too,if I find it too much....but in BAP goalie for example,it seems to help the human goalie`s cpu teammates stay competitive with the cpu.

I`ve never had a hockey game where I set the game speed to 0,as well as a bunch of other stuff.
Some stuff looks weird,.....cause it looked weird to me too.

The game play is what tells the story......and I`ve had nothing but heart pumping exciting gamepkay since I figured these sliders out.(with help from the whole community of video hockey slider freaks)

**Rogie Vachon** · 09-26-2010, 01:11 AM

Re: ** Rogie Vachon`s AllStar Sliders v1.00 -all modes **

Originally posted by vader999

I posted this over on my thread earlier but I'll say it again just for the heck of it.

I've played a few games with your sliders. Mostly on playoff mode. Pretty good so far although I made some changes.

Shot Aim-Auto
Pass Assist-3 I was having trouble working the puck around in the offensive zone.
Hitting Assist-3
Hitting Power-3/0 The disparity of hits in favor of the CPU seemed ridiculous before I made this adjustment.

I'll let you how these changes continue to work out.

Thanks again to you and the others for the comments,and such....because I do take it into account when I do my "playing reviews "of the gameplay.

I never expect people to go exactly to what I use,....I do suggest giving them a fair chance.....but if you need a little extra somewhere,it`s all good.
You may end up coming back to what I use,you may not.....it`s all good.

Have fun,play well,....score often,just not against me...LOL

**Rogie Vachon** · 09-26-2010, 01:41 AM

Re: ** Rogie Vachon`s AllStar Sliders v1.00 -all modes **

Originally posted by Lordofthething

lol, sorry, you ARE using tuner 1.00...I actually try and use the most current tuner with the assumption that it will improve gameplay...which isn't always the case, but just the same, I like to use the current tuner and adjust my sliders from there...

I think I forgot to thank you for the reply,so thanks.

I also usually always liked the latest tuners,....but so far with NHL 11,...nope.
V1.00........for offline,I have no issues with the way the game is playing,especially now with these sliders.

As a BAP goalie,...I see no issues with the top corner short- side stuff,and the other things that the heavy online crowd was complaining about.
Players do all that stuff in real life,and I know...

..I`ve played at the CHL level,and I`ve played with/against maybe close to a team`s worth of NHL/International Hockey players. ( a short list....James Patrick,Gord Kluzak,Ron Hextall,Gary Leeman,Russ Courntnall,Dale Derkatch,Garth Butcher,Mario Lemiuex,Lyndon Byers,Nevin Markwart,Lyle & Selmar Odelien,Todd Strueby,Gord Sherven,Mark Lamb,Brian Skrudland,Cliff Ronning,Rocky Trottier,Wendel Clarke,Paul Lawless,Brian Curran...)
*sorry to drop names,but there`s a lot of talented players there that I`ve faced,and I play a few times a week during the offseason with young guys that are exceptional,and they won`t come close to the NHL.

It`s a fast game,and the puck really,really moves at that level,as do the players,and the hitting is ferocious,...yet the game is subtle and smooth and flowing too.
I`ve come close to nailing it,with all the game modes,...or at least I think as close as what the game will let us right now.

I can only wait for the online game to match to what I get for offline play,....till then it won`t be any fun trying to play online.

**Rogie Vachon** · 09-26-2010, 01:57 AM

Re: ** Rogie Vachon`s AllStar Sliders v1.00 -all modes **

Just a heads up,.....concerning shot power,....

I plan on taking some guys into the shooting practice mode to see if the sliders effect shot power in there,......because of the virtual speed camera,...I want to see what the game gives for speed of shots.

I never use the puck trail either,because,well,......LOL,....it`s a FAIL.But does it show shot speed,.....because if it does,I will experiment to dial in shot power slider better.

Thanks for looking at the thread

**topside** · 09-26-2010, 03:13 PM

Re: ** Rogie Vachon`s AllStar Sliders v1.00 -all modes **

I've been cntemplating using these but that shot power is so high it's holding me back. Your sliders look a lot different than everyone elses sets so I still think I'm going to give it a go for a game or 2.

**dorismary** · 09-26-2010, 03:29 PM

Re: ** Rogie Vachon`s AllStar Sliders v1.00 -all modes **

Originally posted by Lordofthething

lol, sorry, you ARE using tuner 1.00...I actually try and use the most current tuner with the assumption that it will improve gameplay...which isn't always the case, but just the same, I like to use the current tuner and adjust my sliders from there...

I also like to use the latest tuner but like Rogie said for Offline play the others dont even compare so thats why its V 1:00 and i lost all 3 games I tested with not one head scratch or what just happened and it kind of reminds me of NHL 10 but better .
Rogie I will give these a whirl when i get a chance but what does the hu and Cpu pass % look like in most games ? Thanks

**topside** · 09-26-2010, 04:12 PM

Re: ** Rogie Vachon`s AllStar Sliders v1.00 -all modes **

Played one game so far and it felt very good. Loved that the CPU finally hit me! I had to change cpu faceoff difficulty from 3 to 5 because at 3 I wasn't losing any. I also had slap power at 4 instead of 5. I plan on playing a few more games to get a real feel for them. Thank you

**Rogie Vachon** · 09-26-2010, 06:30 PM

Re: ** Rogie Vachon`s AllStar Sliders v1.00 -all modes **

Originally posted by topside

Played one game so far and it felt very good. Loved that the CPU finally hit me! I had to change cpu faceoff difficulty from 3 to 5 because at 3 I wasn't losing any. I also had slap power at 4 instead of 5. I plan on playing a few more games to get a real feel for them. Thank you

Yes,faceoffs is sort of a personal taste slider ,....it was my intention to adjust it as people got better and were winning the majority of faceoffs all the time

Shot speeds are something I want to review a little better,but I`m finding that the goalies seem to play on a level field,and play like they should,but are beatable.
Seeing that the cpu has 'quicker relfexes' than humans,they get max shot power whenever they want it,the human player`s timing and ability to be that precise 100% of the time is a little fair.So this just gives the human player a more realistic chance of beating a cpu goalie.

Thanks for the comments,and such,I appreciate it.

**Rogie Vachon** · 09-26-2010, 07:08 PM

Re: ** Rogie Vachon`s AllStar Sliders v1.00 -all modes **

Passing % are in the 55%-65% range,consistently....maybe just a tad lower...50-60 % maybe,if you`re playing a tight defensive game.

**topside** · 09-26-2010, 11:36 PM

Re: ** Rogie Vachon`s AllStar Sliders v1.00 -all modes **

After 3 games and 3 victories with these sliders they seem too easy for me. And the cpu is doing that gay dance around the blue line instead of dumping the puck thing that used to happen all the time in nhl 10. It's one of the most annoying sights to see lol

**Rogie Vachon** · 09-27-2010, 01:29 AM

Re: ** Rogie Vachon`s AllStar Sliders v1.00 -all modes **

You`re using the exact settings I posted?

What game mode

The strategy adjustments,when you have the sliders adjusted for it,....the cpu coach of each team makes strategy changes on the fly,sometimes ones that conflict with the strategy you may be trying to play.

Whenever I have time,....I`ll check my strategies,see what the coach is asking for,or to change them.Doing this during play when you recognize an opportunity to change forechecking strategy or breakout strategy can get the AI back to doing what you want them to do.

When I have a lead,the cpu coach is always going into defend lead or conservative break out,and the cput team just starts coming at you.

This may be what is happening,....so try turning the strategy slider all the way down for the human strategy,and probably BAP too.

For the difficulty,....try adjusting just the cpu difficulty slider up a notch at a time,see if this gives you more of a challenge.

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