NHL 08: The Icon of Sports Gaming Franchises

[RaychelSnr]

Wil McCombs checks in today with his article, NHL 08: The Icon of Sports Gaming Franchises.

"I admit, I may be a bit tardy with this article. Get with the times, Grandpa, right? I know. But be that as it may, I still need to get this off my chest:

NHL 08 is one of the best sports games that I have played to date. Seriously. "

[Flyermania]

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About time you got with the program!

I agree with the positive comments on this game...it's amazing how EA has turned around their hockey franchise. It is by far the most realistic hockey title I have played to date, and I enjoy it is much as when I first bought it (day of release, like a true hockey fan ).

[Seahawk76]

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My annual disappointment with Madden led me to pick up this game and I don't regret it for a second. Great game. I can't wait to see what they do with NHL 09.

[LP]

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My annual disappointment with Madden led me to pick up this game and I don't regret it for a second. Great game. I can't wait to see what they do with NHL 09.

This game is excellent, and has turned 09 into a must buy for me. Too bad they can't do this with Madden.

[catcatch22]

If they can improve on it and not go backwards, then they will have the best sports game to date. It is already one of the best I have ever played but with some refinements it could be the best....EVER! I have to give props to 2k for pushing them soo hard to finally reach this plateau. Without the 2k series I doubt NHL 08 would be this good.

[kellkasey]

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Agreed. NHL 08 is one of the best sports games I have ever played.

2K started making some great hockey games and it forced EA to step their game up and revolutionize the way we play hockey games. Last year 2k was still on top but this year EA vaulted into the top spot and they look to stay there for a while. This, of course, will make 2K step up their efforts and we the consumer will undoubtedly be the beneficiaries.

Unfortunately we won't see this type of competition in all of our sports games.

[mudtiger]

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I hope going forward in this series at some point EA will make the puck independent of the player at all times, not unlike soccer games where the ball was separated from the foot.

Even when in control of the puck, it needs it's own physics. The puck needs to be able to come up on end and roll or have trouble going flat etc.

Anyways, back on topic, great write up. This game definitely is a gem despite some of it's flaws. I hadn't bought a hockey game since early 2000, but nhl08 has me ready to buy nhl09 pretty much on day 1.

[Cardot]

Yep, it is a great game. But I don't know if I would give it the "Icon" tag. My biggest problem is a lack of options that I had grown used to in the 2K series:
1. Options for periods between 5 and 10 minutes.
2. An option for a shorter season (I don't like simming, but 82 games is too many).
3. Some distinct CPU/User sliders to help bridge the Pro - All Star gap.

But still a great game that I am still playing.

[StormJH1]

Cardot had some great points...NHL '08 is very possibly "iconic" in its gameplay, fun factor, and next-gen feel, but it suffers from many of the traditional EA shortcomings in terms of clunky menu structure, weak offseason and dynasty options, and a poor degree of customizable options. Still, as far as pick--up-and-play fun, I can't think of any recent sports title that comes even close.

I think that the competition with 2k has certainly pushed them to improve their game, but it's ironic that many of the things 2k does well (franchise mode, customization, and options) are NOT the aspects of the game that EA chose to innovate on. Rather, they focused on a innovative controls and brilliant AI that genuinely surprised and impressed their fans. For '09, I would accept seeing only minimal changes to the already stellar gameplay if EA could focus on taking franchise mode and the game's presentation to a whole new level.

[mudtiger]

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Cardot had some great points...NHL '08 is very possibly "iconic" in its gameplay, fun factor, and next-gen feel, but it suffers from many of the traditional EA shortcomings in terms of clunky menu structure, weak offseason and dynasty options, and a poor degree of customizable options. Still, as far as pick--up-and-play fun, I can't think of any recent sports title that comes even close.

I think that the competition with 2k has certainly pushed them to improve their game, but it's ironic that many of the things 2k does well (franchise mode, customization, and options) are NOT the aspects of the game that EA chose to innovate on. Rather, they focused on a innovative controls and brilliant AI that genuinely surprised and impressed their fans. For '09, I would accept seeing only minimal changes to the already stellar gameplay if EA could focus on taking franchise mode and the game's presentation to a whole new level.

I actually disagree on your second point about accepting minimal changes to the AI, and that's odd for me because first and foremost I'm a franchise player and there are tons of things I want added to franchise. For me, EA needs to nail down the AI and how the game plays before they spend time on other things.

The gameplay is close but still needs work and I'd rather see them spend time on nailing down gameplay even if that meant no big improvements in franchise or presentation.

They need to tighten up AI teammates so they aren't dumb as a box of rocks, they need to create more movement off the puck without having to use created plays, they need to force more neutral zone play, they need to revamp passing to allow for off target passes, they need to tighten up shooting mechanics so you don't get the forehand motion turning into a backhand shot (and other weird shots that don't look right), lessen post hits, lessen pucks leaving play, add something to defense to allow for something between a hit and an outright hold/hook, and I'd love to see better puck physics allowing for mishandling of the puck...and that's just off the top of my head regarding gameplay that still needs work.

I don't want the gameplay to take a back seat because it is so close to being A+ rather than the B or B- it is now in terms of realism. I too want to see more presentation and better options, but gameplay first for me.

[bad_philanthropy]

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NHL 08 is definitely one of the only sports games so far that feels like as significant step up from the last generation. Like others have said though there are still improvements across the board to be made both from a presentation standpoint and gameplay standpoint. The article touches on the tip goal he saw, and while it is a great addition there overall in front of the net play needs to be improved, the physics, collision detection, controls, and AI as it relates to in front of the net play is pretty shoddy considering that in the NHL the vast majority of goals are scored from within five feet of the net. That aside NHL 08 is really the sports game I have been waiting on all these years and will continue to enjoy it until 09.

[LP]

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I agree with mudtiger. I also will add to that. Goalie play needs to be looked at. They really need to add animations that differentiate a goalie's style. There isn't much of a difference between stand up, butterfly, and hybrid as of right now. The goalies also seem to move from post to post way to quickly once they have gone butterfly. There is a lot to improve gameplay wise. I was satisfied with 08 and think it is the sports game of the year, but I would be disappointed if it wasn't improved in 09.

[SeaNNyT]

This is a great hockey game, but some of its faults include sketchy AI.

On pro the AI cannot score a goal for the life of them, but you can get a realistic amount of goals. On superstar the AI becomes an unstoppable defensive machine.

[tgalv]

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the controls are easy to learn the basics of, but impossible to master. i think that's what makes it challenging and fun.

[savoie2006]

Great write up and I agree 100%.NHL 08 is the sports game EA Sports should model all their future sports titles after.Though MVP was the first to pull off a turnaround this major.I was suprised to say the least at how rapidly the NHL series has taken a turn for the better.I can't wait for 09!