Any chance they're gonna fix the sim stats in Be a GM?

[thedude]

I just simmed a season and there was only one guy with over 100 pts. The top assist man only had 61...wich is pretty ridiculous considering there was 5 guys with well over 60 assists in the NHL last year. And don't even get me started on the goalie stats. Any chance EA is gonna fix this with a patch? Because at this point it's pretty much a game breaker for me since BE a GM mode is the only mode I play. I'm honestly thinking about returning this game because of this reason. Be a GM is pretty much ruined as far as I'm concerned. Are there any tricks around this? I remember in NHL09 I think it was, if you simmed the games on different skill levels you would get different results.

I really hope EA fixes this in a patch. I know that's probably wishfull thinking, but still....

[GlennN]

Re: Any chance they're gonna fix the sim stats in Be a GM?

Stat engine in NHL 10 did not lead to very credible results either, so I doubt it will be fixed now if it has not been done already. Considering it is difficult (or impossible) to view career stats in general, this is not (by itself) a deal breaker for me. I also only play BeAGM. The sim engine, and inability to view stats, appear pretty similar between NHL 10 and 11.

[ucas005]

Re: Any chance they're gonna fix the sim stats in Be a GM?

Yeah the sim stats are pretty awful in some cases, but not all. Not a game killer for me though. I'm currently on season 3 of my test BeaGM (waiting on rosters to start real) I play a handful of games, but mostly sim. Season one points leader was Crosby with 102. (Ovie top 10) Season 2 points leaders was Vanek with 93. (Ovie only had 76 and played 82 games)

Also, I really wish they would add entire career stats to player profiles along with listing all awards won, all star appearances, etc. Also career, team, season, game records, that can be broken, a lot like NCAA does.

[thedude]

Re: Any chance they're gonna fix the sim stats in Be a GM?

They do have career stats for players though. You just need to click on the player's card and it's in the top right corner where his draft info is.

But back to the topic, simming on different skill levels still gets the same stats results?

[actionhank]

Re: Any chance they're gonna fix the sim stats in Be a GM?

I remember having a ridiculous season, at least in my opinion (Then again, I was a rookie, having a top 10 stat season.
But even with what i thought was a ton of goals, Oveckin and Crosby still outscored me.
Oddly though...the Capitals missed the playoffs both of my BeAGM seasons.

[ucas005]

Re: Any chance they're gonna fix the sim stats in Be a GM?

They do have career stats for players though. You just need to click on the player's card and it's in the top right corner where his draft info is.

Ok yeah I see what you're saying. I was referring more about the individual seasons they break down. You only get the last 4. I wish it also displayed the team the player played for during each season of his individual season stats breakdown.

Anyway, finished another season. Taylor Hall lead league in points with 104 followed by Stamkos at 98. Crosby led league in goals with 45. So 2 out of the past 3 seasons the goal scoring crown has gone to Crosby. Sadly Ovechkin barely makes the top 15 again even after playing a full season of games. 6 guys had 60 or more assists. No one hit 50 goals this season, but Crosby hit it 2 years ago and Kovy the year before that so it does happen just not every season. Overall I'm still somewhat happy with sim stats, just a few weird instances like with Ovechkin after 4 seasons who has yet to put up lifelike stats. I think 84 total points has been his high in 4 seasons.

Side note some of the CPU generated rookies from past drafts are now starting to appear on the league leading lists and making names for themselves in my league. Adds a new element of excitement to the game.

[GlennN]

Re: Any chance they're gonna fix the sim stats in Be a GM?

They do have career stats for players though. You just need to click on the player's card and it's in the top right corner where his draft info is.

But back to the topic, simming on different skill levels still gets the same stats results?

As ucas005 noted, they just give the most recent four seasons of stats. The part you are talking about, if I am understanding correctly, just gives games, goals and points (no +/-, shots, hits, PIM, etc). No mention anywhere of awards, team records, all-star teams made, etc. On the player retirement screen, like the top right corner of player's card, just has games, goals (and assist on the retirement screen) and points - what about defensive players? No plus/minus? No PIM? No hits? Plus, incredibly, you cannot sort by the categories in the retirement screen. It is like EA said, "How can we make stats harder to find and view?" The game immersion really suffers by not being able to get into the careers of my players. I was really hoping this would be fixed in NHL 11, but I suppose it'll be there in NHL 52 same as NHL 12. Very disappointing.

[Money99]

Re: Any chance they're gonna fix the sim stats in Be a GM?

Simmed stats definitely leave something to be desired.
I'm a big sim nerd so this nearly ruins the game for me.
We've been saying this for 5 years now, but I really hope the EA team fixes the sim engine for NHL12.

[thedude]

Re: Any chance they're gonna fix the sim stats in Be a GM?

Are you guys playing every one of your games in BeAGM, or are you simming a good ammount? Last year I played a whole season playing all 82 games and I thought the sim stats were much better than they are this year. But you guys are saying they were just as bad last year, so maybe simming versus playing all the games has something to do with it. I'm probably reaching with this one.....but yeah.

[GlennN]

Re: Any chance they're gonna fix the sim stats in Be a GM?

Are you guys playing every one of your games in BeAGM, or are you simming a good ammount? Last year I played a whole season playing all 82 games and I thought the sim stats were much better than they are this year. But you guys are saying they were just as bad last year, so maybe simming versus playing all the games has something to do with it. I'm probably reaching with this one.....but yeah.

I only play 10 games a year, simming the rest. I want to be able to get through enough seasons to watch the players grow and develop (which is why it kills me not to be able to easily view stats and awards of individual players around the league).

[06woz]

Re: Any chance they're gonna fix the sim stats in Be a GM?

I can't draw any absolute conclusions yet, but it seems as if stats are much better when you don't sim. I play every game, and so far it's looked fairly good.

Crosby(@23GP) 14G 16A
Ovechkin(@19GP) 15G 9A

I'm quite happy that Ovie and Crosby are top 2 in points, it rarely works out that way for me.

[RealmK]

Re: Any chance they're gonna fix the sim stats in Be a GM?

Simmed stats definitely leave something to be desired.
I'm a big sim nerd so this nearly ruins the game for me.
We've been saying this for 5 years now, but I really hope the EA team fixes the sim engine for NHL12.

Yeah they are brutal at times, this really needs to be fixed. The presentation still needs a bit of touching up as well. I am liking most of the game play though.

[GROGtheNailer]

Re: Any chance they're gonna fix the sim stats in Be a GM?

When you sim games, have you tried simming at periods set to 20 mins ?

[MacBradley]

Re: Any chance they're gonna fix the sim stats in Be a GM?

When you sim games, have you tried simming at periods set to 20 mins ?

Mine always are, using similar to the 20 minute sliders I posted in the slider forum. I simmed about 90% of almost 5 fulls seasons, and the stats seemed very realistic for the most part. I usually only play the 3rd period or last 5 minutes and overtimes of ties during season, but play full games against rival teams and play almost every playoff game.

My results? The only consistent "standout" problems were the Sedins not putting up top of league numbers, but I suppose much of that has to do with their great chemistry together, and that's one thing that isn't implemented much or at all in NHL11 (should be though!).

One thing easily overlooked is injuries. If Crosby only plays 55 games, he's probably not going to top the league in points.

There of course are some players that seem slightly off, but that happens in real life, so who knows. A consistency attribute for players would be nice as well. For example, Paul Statsny has a career PPG average of almost exactly 1.0, and each year he plays he has almost exactly that same PPG average. It seems weird when after a sim that Statsny (and some other similar, Olympic level players that are a bit underrated in NHL11) suddenly drops to a PPG varying from .3 to .8 for 4 seasons strait.

Other small things, like Toews top 3 in league for goals sometimes; but that's because they decided to rate his defense too low and instead turn him into a Crosby attribute clone in NHL11.

[TrippyHippy]

Re: Any chance they're gonna fix the sim stats in Be a GM?

To be honest, it is very hard to predict stats for a season. I mean you look at this season so far, Ovie is on pace for only 32 goals but 104pts making NHL11's sim stats fairly accurate for him. Who would have predicted that at the start of the season? Who would have thought Kovy would only be on pace for 34pts or that Jeff Skinner would come straight into the NHL and be on pace to be the highest scoring rookie? I like that NHL11 has unpredictable stats, in my first sim season I took the Oilers to the cup final after just scraping into a playoff spot. If I wanted realistic stats, I would just watch the NHL on TV or play East Side Hockey Manager. It also stops people from just trading for guys like Crosby and Ovie and winning the league year after year. It's not perfect but it satisfies my imagination.