Scouting needs to be better

[Bucksfan7]

I wish scouting was more in depth than just sending a scout on a trip for a week to scout the whl defenseman, etc. I'd like to focus on specific players or teams instead of an entire league. I just started my be a gm but does your scout eventually give you feedback on players?

[CaptainSuperman]

Re: Scouting needs to be better

If you wanted to scout just specific players or teams, how long do you think it would take to scout everybody? The way scouting is done in the game, you're scouting loads and loads of talent from a specific region in just weeks. Rather than constantly having to go in and out of menus every (in-game) week to change your scouting assignments.

[geoffstanek]

Re: Scouting needs to be better

I wish scouting was more in depth than just sending a scout on a trip for a week to scout the whl defenseman, etc. I'd like to focus on specific players or teams instead of an entire league. I just started my be a gm but does your scout eventually give you feedback on players?

I dont scout individual players in my GM because anyone picked after RD 3 is worthless IMO. However im pretty sure that when scouting a league the players will be listed on the bottom. I know you can look at each players scouting numbers but im not sure if you can scout that particular player. When in the selection mode for your scout hit triangle to go to list and see if you can hilight that player.. I dont use it but i think it works.

Hope this helps

[Bucksfan7]

Re: Scouting needs to be better

If you wanted to scout just specific players or teams, how long do you think it would take to scout everybody? The way scouting is done in the game, you're scouting loads and loads of talent from a specific region in just weeks. Rather than constantly having to go in and out of menus every (in-game) week to change your scouting assignments.

True, but atleast they could give us more feedback on players. Like what type of player he is. Not just show us his potential and how high the league is interested in him.

[Bucksfan7]

Re: Scouting needs to be better

I dont scout individual players in my GM because anyone picked after RD 3 is worthless IMO. However im pretty sure that when scouting a league the players will be listed on the bottom. I know you can look at each players scouting numbers but im not sure if you can scout that particular player. When in the selection mode for your scout hit triangle to go to list and see if you can hilight that player.. I dont use it but i think it works.

Hope this helps

They should have diamonds in the rough. Follow ncaa footballs recruiting. Some 2 star and 3 star prospects turn into stars. So if you scout those projected late rounders you could find a stud. The wings are known for finding talent in late rounds I'd love find that 7th rounder who's a top line scorer. They could just keep it week to week or multiple weeks, where you send your scout to look at say 5-10 players in a week or 2(it can be more players for a longer scouting trip). This way we don't have to search after every game.

[TConnell]

Re: Scouting needs to be better

They should have diamonds in the rough. Follow ncaa footballs recruiting. Some 2 star and 3 star prospects turn into stars. So if you scout those projected late rounders you could find a stud. The wings are known for finding talent in late rounds I'd love find that 7th rounder who's a top line scorer. They could just keep it week to week or multiple weeks, where you send your scout to look at say 5-10 players in a week or 2(it can be more players for a longer scouting trip). This way we don't have to search after every game.

I was just about to write something similar. There are late draft choices that turn into something. I think Henrik Lundqvist was a 7th round pick the year the Rangers drafted Hugh Jessiman in the first round. I just want to be able to go into the draft and not sim after Round 3. Maybe they won't be great players, but maybe they have a redeeming quality that can be built upon and turn them into solid contributors or guys who develop into potential NHL players.

[DaRK]

Re: Scouting needs to be better

Datsyuk was drafted 161th, Zetterberg 210th, Quick 72nd (nice NJ, I can totally see starting goalie potential in Jeff Frazee!), Miller 138th, Lundqvist 205th, Brett Hull 117th, Hasek 199th, St. Louis overlooked, the list goes on and on.

[RagingTrav]

Re: Scouting needs to be better

They should have diamonds in the rough. Follow ncaa footballs recruiting. Some 2 star and 3 star prospects turn into stars. So if you scout those projected late rounders you could find a stud. The wings are known for finding talent in late rounds I'd love find that 7th rounder who's a top line scorer. They could just keep it week to week or multiple weeks, where you send your scout to look at say 5-10 players in a week or 2(it can be more players for a longer scouting trip). This way we don't have to search after every game.

I was just about to write something similar. There are late draft choices that turn into something. I think Henrik Lundqvist was a 7th round pick the year the Rangers drafted Hugh Jessiman in the first round. I just want to be able to go into the draft and not sim after Round 3. Maybe they won't be great players, but maybe they have a redeeming quality that can be built upon and turn them into solid contributors or guys who develop into potential NHL players.

In one GM I've found a few 3.5 star guys with late picks but their overall is ridiculously low. But there are others where everyone past the 2nd/3rd round are 2 star players. The potentials being so accurate makes drafting boring IMO. It is improved this year on previous years where the potential was unknown until after the draft.
Ideally your Rookie scout would have his thoughts on the player and then once drafted your assistant coach can give you a more accurate description over time.

[Bucksfan7]

Re: Scouting needs to be better

Datsyuk was drafted 161th, Zetterberg 210th, Quick 72nd (nice NJ, I can totally see starting goalie potential in Jeff Frazee!), Miller 138th, Lundqvist 205th, Brett Hull 117th, Hasek 199th, St. Louis overlooked, the list goes on and on.

This is why it should be more in depth. I bet most people now trade their late round picks to move up in the draft. They should seriously look into changing the system(like ncaa footballs recruiting system). I'd love to scout and find the next datsyuk or zetterberg.

[GlennN]

Re: Scouting needs to be better

Personally, I would like scouting by region (though I do like the idea of scouting by team - it would just require too much micromanagement to be fun), but I would like to get rid of the idea that my scout can only look at forwards, defense or goalies. It seems ridiculous to me that my scout closes his eyes to everything but one set of players. I like how The Show does scouting - first you discover prospects, then you can scout individually to get more accuracy on ratings.

[Bucksfan7]

Re: Scouting needs to be better

Personally, I would like scouting by region (though I do like the idea of scouting by team - it would just require too much micromanagement to be fun), but I would like to get rid of the idea that my scout can only look at forwards, defense or goalies. It seems ridiculous to me that my scout closes his eyes to everything but one set of players. I like how The Show does scouting - first you discover prospects, then you can scout individually to get more accuracy on ratings.

Right they could take a lil from each game to make scouting better. I love recruiting in ncaa football. I play it just to recruit. I would seriously play this game just to scout if it was better. So many things they could do with this but I'm guessing it won't get touched.

[canucksss]

Re: Scouting needs to be better

Right they could take a lil from each game to make scouting better. I love recruiting in ncaa football. I play it just to recruit. I would seriously play this game just to scout if it was better. So many things they could do with this but I'm guessing it won't get touched.

or take the cue from the College basketball 2k8 wherein you can be like a scout either by playing or observing the games between teams in HS games. You can trim down the time so you dont have to play the whole game. in fact you can choose a player and play him so you can see his skills.

there's so much to improve in this game..... but EA needs to get their acts together and focus one at a time and make the best possible improvements. every year they can develop one areas instead of adding "new" modes.

[gamerk2]

Re: Scouting needs to be better

Personally, I find scouting in all sports games bad, but its especially bad in NHL. Seriously, I put my scout on WHL defensemen for 6 weeks, and maybe three guys actually get scouted.

Given how the CPU loves draft picks, I just trade them all away every year in exchange for the highest ranked rookies. Guranteed at least two 80's for cheap this way...

[crankybaker]

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I don't know about being about to scout exact players but I would like your scouts to give you recommendations during the draft.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>
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I also would like the draft to not be so linear. Ie every player after the 3rd shouldn't be useless, from time to time some gems should be found. in saying that the 1st rounders shouldn't be so great. Di Dipietro and eagar both went in the 1st round and haven't been great at the NHL level so I would like some failed prospects to be in the pool.<o></o>
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I also would love it if players weren't the same with each gm. Ie different gems are found and different players fail.<o></o>

[Bucksfan7]

Re: Scouting needs to be better

or take the cue from the College basketball 2k8 wherein you can be like a scout either by playing or observing the games between teams in HS games. You can trim down the time so you dont have to play the whole game. in fact you can choose a player and play him so you can see his skills.

there's so much to improve in this game..... but EA needs to get their acts together and focus one at a time and make the best possible improvements. every year they can develop one areas instead of adding "new" modes.

I remember that game it was pretty cool to be able to play with your prospects to see how they are before you signed them.