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  • Cletus
    MVP
    • Oct 2004
    • 1772

    #76
    Re: NHL Community Committee

    Originally posted by Oohwayy
    I understand where you all are coming from. I would probably be frustrated too. However I urge you to think where we came from too, if you want to put it that way.
    *Before I go off on a ramble of thoughts, know that UTP and I aren't forum posters or blog posters or anything special, so this forum post might come off as unprofessional or goofy.

    Some of you mentioned us coming from a "YouTube Community". I'm sure if you are the slightest bit familiar with EA Sports NHL YouTube Content, that you know it is 95% dominated by HUT videos - most of them being pack openings.
    I think whether we made the vote from the EA Forums site or the OS site, we would have received criticism. As stated before, we simply play the game (a lot) and don't necessarily type about it. Instead, I (and I'm sure I can speak for UTP too) would rather make a video or something to express my thoughts/opinions/ideas. We both posted our application answers to each of the forums, and if we had made it from the EA Forum side those dedicated forum posters would probably be upset with us too (for good reason).
    Furthermore, I highly doubt that EA chose us to be a part of the vote because of our YouTube reputations (Side note, UTP and I don't even have the greatest rep anyways lol). If EA was choosing based off subscriber count, they would have looked at bigger YouTubers applying to this, such as TargetAudience18 or TacTixHD, both at about 15K and 21K subscribers respectively. UTP and I currently sit at 4K and 2.5K, most of which are "dead" subscribers because we are not the most active YouTubers either (mainly because no EASHL on next-gen).

    I personally believe that I am one of the better dmen in the game and that UTP is also an exceptional winger. We both have played our fair share of games and have generated our own ideas/thoughts as to how it can be improved.

    From reading your forum posts, I know you all are irritated with EA Sports just like how I think we've all been for a long time. I figured I should apply to both forums for twice the chance to be picked, as any reasonable person would probably do. Hopefully you guys can understand where we're coming from (although I probably wasn't very clear anyways) and we'll try to understand where you guys are coming from!
    If we combine the ideas from OS that you have, as well as our own personal ideas with your YouTube subscribers' ideas along with leaguegaming 's LGHL 6v6 league I'm a part of, I'm sure we can generate some great things for EA to consider for the future of EASHL.

    Not really sure what I'm trying to say here to be honest with you all.
    For future purposes, it is best to contact me on twitter @ TheOohwayy as I'll get a notification right away on my phone. I'll try to come on the OS forums more often too!
    -Oohwayy
    Welcome to OS and please stick around. Most of the guys that are in the NHL forum here have been for years. It's a group that is rather familiar with each other. I'm sure you will do a wonderful job.
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    • utp102
      Rookie
      • Nov 2014
      • 5

      #77
      Re: NHL Community Committee

      Originally posted by Oohwayy
      I understand where you all are coming from. I would probably be frustrated too. However I urge you to think where we came from too, if you want to put it that way.
      *Before I go off on a ramble of thoughts, know that UTP and I aren't forum posters or blog posters or anything special, so this forum post might come off as unprofessional or goofy.

      Some of you mentioned us coming from a "YouTube Community". I'm sure if you are the slightest bit familiar with EA Sports NHL YouTube Content, that you know it is 95% dominated by HUT videos - most of them being pack openings.
      I think whether we made the vote from the EA Forums site or the OS site, we would have received criticism. As stated before, we simply play the game (a lot) and don't necessarily type about it. Instead, I (and I'm sure I can speak for UTP too) would rather make a video or something to express my thoughts/opinions/ideas. We both posted our application answers to each of the forums, and if we had made it from the EA Forum side those dedicated forum posters would probably be upset with us too (for good reason).
      Furthermore, I highly doubt that EA chose us to be a part of the vote because of our YouTube reputations (Side note, UTP and I don't even have the greatest rep anyways lol). If EA was choosing based off subscriber count, they would have looked at bigger YouTubers applying to this, such as TargetAudience18 or TacTixHD, both at about 15K and 21K subscribers respectively. UTP and I currently sit at 4K and 2.5K, most of which are "dead" subscribers because we are not the most active YouTubers either (mainly because no EASHL on next-gen).

      I personally believe that I am one of the better dmen in the game and that UTP is also an exceptional winger. We both have played our fair share of games and have generated our own ideas/thoughts as to how it can be improved.

      From reading your forum posts, I know you all are irritated with EA Sports just like how I think we've all been for a long time. I figured I should apply to both forums for twice the chance to be picked, as any reasonable person would probably do. Hopefully you guys can understand where we're coming from (although I probably wasn't very clear anyways) and we'll try to understand where you guys are coming from!
      If we combine the ideas from OS that you have, as well as our own personal ideas with your YouTube subscribers' ideas along with leaguegaming 's LGHL 6v6 league I'm a part of, I'm sure we can generate some great things for EA to consider for the future of EASHL.

      Not really sure what I'm trying to say here to be honest with you all.
      For future purposes, it is best to contact me on twitter @ TheOohwayy as I'll get a notification right away on my phone. I'll try to come on the OS forums more often too!
      -Oohwayy
      Good post brother

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      • emericaridr11
        Pro
        • Jan 2010
        • 798

        #78
        Re: NHL Community Committee

        I dont care how nice and well spoken you guys are......
        its hogwash (I dont mean to sound mad rude)

        but having said that.... PLEASE work with some of the true OS members, since you will be representing Operation Sports.

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        • THESHAMISASHAME
          MVP
          • Mar 2013
          • 1479

          #79
          Re: NHL Community Committee

          Originally posted by utp102
          Everyone needs to calm down. Oohwayy and I are extremely dedicated to the game mode of EASHL and frankly pretty talented at it. Maybe I don't have a million forum posts but I have been dedicated to this game mode for as long as I can remember. I will do my best to communicate ideas to ea. Maybe instead of bashing us you can give us some ideas that you would like us to convey. Thanks again. UTP
          First Congrats you Won fair and square and Im very proud your representing us at OS as a unbiased voice and sorry about the many whiners who cry foul without any facts as that happens alot here at times , so once again thanks and Good Luck I know youll do us proud
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          • Cycloniac
            Man, myth, legend.
            • May 2009
            • 6361

            #80
            Re: NHL Community Committee

            Congratulations to the two winners, from a veteran OS member.

            I won't comment on the results of the vote as I feel that has already been addressed enough. I'll just say that I'm relieved that EA (seems) to want to make a more concerted effort to work directly with the NHL community, and I'm happy that OS is on board.

            Best of luck to the winners. Make the community proud, and steer this ship in the right direction. We're rooting for you.
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            • drog1602
              Rookie
              • Sep 2011
              • 400

              #81
              Re: NHL Community Committee

              Its not so much whom was chosen, but more important...will EA "LISTEN" to their suggestions and implement them. I don't care for another EA trick, smoke and mirrors.

              We the community want change to the EASHL. This is your last chance to redeem yourself EA.

              Good luck to those that have been chosen.

              Drog

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              • utp102
                Rookie
                • Nov 2014
                • 5

                #82
                Re: NHL Community Committee

                Hey guys just checking in again. I am trying to come on OS more often but if you would like to tell me some ideas you have, tell me to check out a certain post, just talk to me in general whatever, feel free to tweet me @utp102 where I can communicate with whoever ASAP. Thanks again!

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                • boxers
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 623

                  #83
                  Re: NHL Community Committee

                  Spoiler
                  Originally posted by EASPORTSNHL

                  After we have received enough applications, we will put the top candidates into a poll and the community will vote in the top 2 fans from OS onto the committee.

                  The entire committee will be made up of fans from different EA NHL communities, including the official EA Forums and Operation Sports.

                  Note: To participate in the committee you must reside in North America and be able to travel to Canada.

                  Thanks,
                  EA NHL Team.
                  Sorry guys, I don't mean to beat a dead horse here but I think utp is missing the point. I personally have nothing against him, I'm sure he's qualified and will do a great job -- in fact, since I don't play EASHL, I have no horse in this race . BUT, what is the point of saying we will vote in the "top 2 fans from OS" if that isn't what is going to happen.

                  The point is that this vote was supposed to be an effort to have the OS community represented and I presume voting occurred through other websites to have their members added to the committee). Ultimately, what happened is 2 guys got voted who apparently had a combined total of 3 posts and registered the very same month this poll took place.

                  Maybe I don't understand how the voting process. Here is what I thought was supposed to happen:

                  step1: OS members nominate other OS members
                  step 2: EA selects the best nominees and asks OS members to vote
                  step 3: OS members vote for their chose nominees

                  Is that what happened? Because no one on OS seems to know either of the 2 winners, so I'm having hard time understanding what just happened. Couldn't this all have been avoided by running the vote through the OS forum since you have to be registered?

                  Anyways, I apologize for re-opening old wounds but I just feel the whole "we're EASHL players, guys, trust us" response seemed to miss the point of people's complaints. No one is saying utp and the other fellow are not going to do their jobs well and no one is jealous that they were chosen. In my case, I'm just taken aback by the EA's lack of communication and clarity. If you're really trying to make amends with the community, you would think the least they could do is make an effort to be transparent on something that should have been very simple.
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                  • actionhank
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1530

                    #84
                    Re: NHL Community Committee

                    Originally posted by THESHAMISASHAME
                    First Congrats you Won fair and square and Im very proud your representing us at OS as a unbiased voice and sorry about the many whiners who cry foul without any facts as that happens alot here at times , so once again thanks and Good Luck I know youll do us proud
                    No need to call people whiners. I think it's fair to be a little unhappy that people from OS seem to have been mislead.

                    Everyone was under the impression that people who were actively part of the OS Community on a regular basis, and posted here often would be given a spot as well as posters from EA. It's not that anyone dislikes the people who are representing OS, it's that frankly, no one knows who they are, and i don't think it's a stretch to guess that they don't know a lot about OS. This place is pretty unique in it's view and expectations of the series, so to want people who are from the community to represent it shouldn't make anyone a "whiner".
                    Last edited by actionhank; 12-02-2014, 01:38 PM.

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                    • Cycloniac
                      Man, myth, legend.
                      • May 2009
                      • 6361

                      #85
                      Re: NHL Community Committee

                      Originally posted by actionhank
                      No need to call people whiners. I think it's fair to be a little unhappy that people from OS seem to have been mislead.

                      Everyone was under the impression that people who were actively part of the OS Community on a regular basis, and posted here often would be given a spot as well as posters from EA. It's not that anyone dislikes the people who are representing OS, it's that frankly, no one knows who they are, and i don't think it's a stretch to guess that they don't know a lot about OS. This place is pretty unique in it's view and expectations of the series, so to want people who are from the community to represent it shouldn't make anyone a "whiner".
                      Seconded.

                      I definitely think everyone has a strong case to be upset with how this played out. What was promised did not happen. Simple as that. Sure, everybody hopes the winners represent the NHL community well, but that's not the point anymore.
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                      • Cletus
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 1772

                        #86
                        Re: NHL Community Committee

                        Originally posted by actionhank
                        No need to call people whiners. I think it's fair to be a little unhappy that people from OS seem to have been mislead.

                        Everyone was under the impression that people who were actively part of the OS Community on a regular basis, and posted here often would be given a spot as well as posters from EA. It's not that anyone dislikes the people who are representing OS, it's that frankly, no one knows who they are, and i don't think it's a stretch to guess that they don't know a lot about OS. This place is pretty unique in it's view and expectations of the series, so to want people who are from the community to represent it shouldn't make anyone a "whiner".
                        Don't worry about him. If you don't agree with him, you're a whiner, loser, etc. I'm not even sure why he's on the forums in the first place. I have no personal beef but it seems like if you're not praising EA NHL he doesn't like you. It just sucks that the two guys who won the got aren't from OS which makes me wonder which OS guys voted for them. I hope EASHL comes back in a big way but I doubt it will be anything great. I've learned from EAC to keep your expectations low, and that's sad considering its 2014.
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                        • kehlis
                          Moderator
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 27925

                          #87
                          Re: NHL Community Committee

                          Originally posted by boxers
                          Maybe I don't understand how the voting process. Here is what I thought was supposed to happen:

                          step1: OS members nominate other OS members
                          step 2: EA selects the best nominees and asks OS members to vote
                          step 3: OS members vote for their chose nominees

                          Is that what happened? Because no one on OS seems to know either of the 2 winners, so I'm having hard time understanding what just happened. Couldn't this all have been avoided by running the vote through the OS forum since you have to be registered?
                          You misunderstood how the process was to work and it's pretty clearly stated in the OP.

                          Step one was never mentioned at all, users came here and recommended very well deserving users but that was unsolicited.

                          2. EA did select the best nominees in their eye and asked the community as a whole to vote. Note the community is not just OS.

                          3. Again, not an OS vote, you can still go to the link in the OP but the vote is closed.


                          And you can go back and check, the users DID post their interest here on OS before they were named. Unless I missed it there was no post count requirement on the site to be named.


                          Don't get me wrong at all. We have a ton of users here who would be fantastic, I know nothing about the two that one (good or bad) but I have no idea how the vote went.


                          Did anyone here vote? Was the actual poll divided between sites or was it just a bunch of names?

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                          • Cletus
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 1772

                            #88
                            Re: NHL Community Committee

                            Originally posted by kehlis
                            You misunderstood how the process was to work and it's pretty clearly stated in the OP.

                            Step one was never mentioned at all, users came here and recommended very well deserving users but that was unsolicited.

                            2. EA did select the best nominees in their eye and asked the community as a whole to vote. Note the community is not just OS.

                            3. Again, not an OS vote, you can still go to the link in the OP but the vote is closed.


                            And you can go back and check, the users DID post their interest here on OS before they were named. Unless I missed it there was no post count requirement on the site to be named.


                            Don't get me wrong at all. We have a ton of users here who would be fantastic, I know nothing about the two that one (good or bad) but I have no idea how the vote went.


                            Did anyone here vote? Was the actual poll divided between sites or was it just a bunch of names?
                            I voted and it was divided. I think that's what made it more confusing. List A was EA forum members then under it there were places to click beside members names. List B was OS and under that was a place to click on their names. It wasn't said that it was only an OS and EA forums vote, but it was implied by the way they set it up.
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                            • actionhank
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 1530

                              #89
                              Re: NHL Community Committee

                              Originally posted by kehlis
                              You misunderstood how the process was to work and it's pretty clearly stated in the OP.

                              Step one was never mentioned at all, users came here and recommended very well deserving users but that was unsolicited.

                              2. EA did select the best nominees in their eye and asked the community as a whole to vote. Note the community is not just OS.

                              3. Again, not an OS vote, you can still go to the link in the OP but the vote is closed.


                              And you can go back and check, the users DID post their interest here on OS before they were named. Unless I missed it there was no post count requirement on the site to be named.


                              Don't get me wrong at all. We have a ton of users here who would be fantastic, I know nothing about the two that one (good or bad) but I have no idea how the vote went.


                              Did anyone here vote? Was the actual poll divided between sites or was it just a bunch of names?
                              I believe it was divided. I didn't want to vote for an EA member, because i honestly have no idea who would be good for them, so i felt my vote wasn't a fair representation.

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                              • StLHokie
                                Rookie
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 54

                                #90
                                Re: NHL Community Committee

                                Hi folks. I'm here coming from the EA forums side. I lurk occasionally on here as well, checking in on threads and seeing some of the topics being discussed.

                                Many of you seem to be rather distraught, and I can understand that to an extent. However; the OS community is made of primarily of folks that focus more on the offline aspects of the game. EASHL is an online game mode. As a guy who posts mostly on the EA forums, I came to read the applications and there were really none that were comparable to that of Ooohways and UTPs when it came to looking for what I wanted to be on the committee. The majority of posts were focused on Be a GM, Gameplay, and presentation as a user outlined a few pages ago.

                                That isn't what this committee is for. It is for EASHL activities, and from applications (which is the only thing that EA is reading that anyone posts these days) Those two were the best choice. From your perspectives, yes, it might be rough because you don't feel you have a representation on the committee. But as a whole, would you all consider yourself truly adequate to providing feedback about EASHL? Over on the EA Forums, probably closeto 50% of posts are EASHL related. That is the focus. Here, you all are probably lucky to get 10% related to EASHL. So it should come to no surprise that folks that applied stating they had ideas for the EASHL game mode were chosen. If you all want a better game, sending folks that don't have expertise in the proper game mode isn't going to improve the game, which is exactly the position that this community has.

                                It's obviously a tough pill to swallow. But I can say that the folks from the EA Forums side of the committee share many of your ideas and frustrations with the game. Gameplay is the other 50% of posts on the EA Forums these days, and every person that was chosen from our side knows the faults that gameplay has. They will do all that they can to improve most of these issues.

                                Rather than request a re-vote, or mod selection of OS members, request another committee that relates to things such as GM mode, Rosters, Likenesses, etc, as you all would be extremely qualified, moreso than any other community out there, to guide the series in the right direction for those modes.
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