Do Players Feel Different?

[StrongIsland666]

I've been combing thru this site to see if players with dif attributes actually feel different? I know that last year attributes didnt matter all the players felt the same. Sorry if i missed it in the forum

[GlennN]

Re: Do Players Feel Different?

I am waiting to hear more on this also. One poster on the early access thread felt there was a difference, but I would love to hear from more folks.

[StrongIsland666]

Re: Do Players Feel Different?

I am waiting to hear more on this also. One poster on the early access thread felt there was a difference, but I would love to hear from more folks.

Yea this is a Huge detail for me, as well as Player Progression issues. If attributes don't make a dif what is the point?

[BL8001]

Re: Do Players Feel Different?

This is a puzzling one, I write that because of the way the ratings are in the game. Because of the NHLPA news requiring EA to rate the NHL'ers closer together OVR wise it appears on sight like all players are the same.

But when I play I definitely feel like certain players shoot, skate and pass better than others. If I go look at the ratings should I really feel a difference between an 85 rated passer and a 91 rated passer? On the ice I do.

So maybe it's possible that in some way EA circumvented the rating system, particularly that pesky OVR rating, to make the players play differently?

I am still investigating.

[Vmascarello]

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I still dont think its where it should be for next gen, as far as feel goes with these skaters.

But, it is improved. I went through the whole league and adjusted alot of attributes because I feel EA is clueless when it comes to ratings. So, my roster have a bigger vatiance then the default ones. I also turn "Attribute Effects" sliders to max.

With all that being said, Marchand seems to feel alot quicker and agile than Loui Eriksson. Chara is slow but had a good stick for poke checks and hits very hard. Spooner hads alot more agility than Seidenberg, and so on.

Not what it should be yet, but definitely better in my opinion.

[jyoung]

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Shooting accuracy is still the only attribute where I feel any significant difference on the ice.

Even then, you can still score occasional snipe goals with mediocre and bad shooters.

So to answer the OP's question, the players generally don't feel much different to me.

The game still seems to be tuned so that you can be successful while trying to perform any move with any skater.

[onlybygrace]

Re: Do Players Feel Different?

So there is no difference between a Vladimir Tarasenko and a David Backes or even a Steve Ott?


How about a difference between a Crosby and Lapierre...


Heck, even on last gen there was a difference between a Crosby and Malkin in body form and style alone.

[StrongIsland666]

Re: Do Players Feel Different?

Appreciate the feedback guys, Honestly I didnt buy Nhl 15 bc of what I read about the game. I'm gonna wait and see about the Player Progression system in BeAGM before I decide if im gonna buy the game.

[StrongIsland666]

Re: Do Players Feel Different?

So there is no difference between a Vladimir Tarasenko and a David Backes or even a Steve Ott?


How about a difference between a Crosby and Lapierre...


Heck, even on last gen there was a difference between a Crosby and Malkin in body form and style alone.

This is the main reason I didn't buy 15. Just dumb that a Superstar feels the same as a 3rd line Gritt type guy

[BL8001]

Re: Do Players Feel Different?

If you go into the lower leagues you definitely lose the puck more when you do certain dekes.

And I fired quite a few howlers at the goal that went way wide.

[GlennN]

Re: Do Players Feel Different?

Shooting accuracy is still the only attribute where I feel any significant difference on the ice.

Even then, you can still score occasional snipe goals with mediocre and bad shooters.

So to answer the OP's question, the players generally don't feel much different to me.

The game still seems to be tuned so that you can be successful while trying to perform any move with any skater.

Darn. This has been killing BeAGM for me for years with the NHL series. Each year I hope for improvement and each year I am disappointed. Fortunately, at least I finally kept myself from buying the game on such hopes. I'll still probably pick it up, but not until it drops to like $39.99. Thanks for the feedback!

[Vmascarello]

Re: Do Players Feel Different?

I will say the player progression system is very good. If you have any specific questions, Ive investigated it pretty thoroughly. Theres alot of things Im disappointed about, but progression is not one of them.

[Vmascarello]

Re: Do Players Feel Different?

Personally, I dont think its where it should be. But, Crosby does not feel like Steve Ott. Skilled players are much easier to create chances with then grinders but it still needs work.

[StrongIsland666]

Re: Do Players Feel Different?

Sounds like EA is going in the right direction. I can't remember at this time what everyone was saying specifically about the progression last yr, Just know it wasn't good

[jyoung]

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Actually, I take back what I said about shot accuracy mattering. Here's back to back wrist shot snipe goals on Cory Schneider (88 stick high, 91 angles, 90 vision) with Borna Rendulic (84 power, 74 accuracy) and William Bower (80 power, 64 accuracy):

http://gfycat.com/OblongAmusedBison

That's on default All-Star difficulty and Simulation game style, but I've seen similar shots go in on Superstar Hardcore.