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Old 01-25-2019, 03:04 AM   #1
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Gameplay Updates Based on Beta Tuner Rollback Feedback

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can we have the new tuner already. smh
We knew that everyone would like to get the updates so we made our best effort to get it up ahead of the weekend. We were a bit too optimistic and unfortunately we couldn’t guarantee that it wouldn’t cause some issues in the minimum time we had to test.

Earliest you will see it would
be Tuesday @2am PST but proper testing has to be completed before we can confirm anything.





Gameplay Updates Based on Beta Tuner Rollback Feedback
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Hey everyone,

First and foremost, thank you everyone for providing feedback regarding the Beta Tuner rollback. We received a significant amount of feedback from the entire community and have taken that feedback in as we work on our next tuner to help make the gameplay better for everyone.

While we have been hard at work collecting and digesting all the feedback from the surveys and written responses, we have also been working on getting the next tuner ready so we can get it in game as soon as possible.

We’re excited to announce that the next tuner update will be coming on January 25th at 02:00 AM PST/05:00 AM EST, which is tonight! The tuner will be built directly off of the feedback we received from the past two weeks. In order for us to do this quickly, you will once again see it as an update to Tuner 1.03 as we are first making the updates to online modes only, just as we did for the rollback. Entering any online experience, you will be asked to redownload that tuner to get the changes for the online modes. Offline players will still be able to choose any of the existing tuners they were using and use their own personal settings like they could before.

We will continue to monitor gameplay with this new foundation and will eventually put up a 1.04 tuner with final tuning that will be able to be used Offline as well.

First and foremost, this new tuner update will use the Beta Tuner (v1.00) as the foundation for gameplay. When going through the feedback, a lot of people preferred the core gameplay aspects of v1.00 especially related to both skating and hitting.

With Tuner v1.00 as the foundation, we will be making the following adjustments to align with feedback we received:
  • AI skaters will not perform defensive actions against active puck carriers
    • The Beta Tuner Rollback allowed this for the first 2-4 frames, which is why people saw the change in the AI
    • Note: the AI will maintain their skating aggression and positioning from the roll back as people preferred it as opposed to the past gameplay tuner
  • AI skaters will not commit penalties in Online VS or HUT
  • Reduced the chance ai skaters will put the puck over the glass for delay of game penalties in World of Chel
  • Added back in the forehand stick lift faceoff win speed increase
  • Added in the fix to the energy regained at the whistle so that we see more realistic rolling of lines
    • Many players commented that they felt they were able to stack their lines to use their top players more frequently, which provided less of a realistic experience.
  • Tuning fixes for AI Goalie logic for when to play the puck out of their net
    • Sometimes goalies were getting a little too aggressive; this will help prevent that
  • Added back in consistency for user goalies to transition to post hug at extreme facing directions
  • Tuned back in the penalty logic changes around trips
  • Tuned back in the pokecheck accuracy improvements
  • Split the difference on the stick lift penalty tuning so it will be between Tuner 1.00 and Tuner 1.03
    • A majority of the community mentioned that while stick lifts were too strong in the Beta Tuner, they were also causing too many penalties in 1.03 which made them less effective. This change should help find the proper balance for them.
  • Added back in puck pickup tuning fixes
  • Tuning out dropped and broken sticks again in online modes
  • Added back in the tuning to increase loose puck deke success
  • Tuned back in the changes to lower goalies’ ability to react to passes as quickly when they aren’t reading pass
  • Tuned back in fix to lower assistance on goalie passes
  • Finally, we split the difference between Tuner 1.00 and Tuner 1.03 on the incidental puck loss distance tuning but keeping the low relative speed hitting tuning from 1.00
    • This will help address the complaints we saw in Tuner 1.03 around players being unable to bump players off the puck at low speeds in the corner, but reduce the amount of incidental contact puck loss that we also saw complaints about from Tuner 1.00

Again, we thank you for your constructive feedback in forums, on Twitter, and in messages. The detailed feedback we saw along with the video clips we received allowed us to understand and address the issues to help make the game better.

We’re excited for you to get your hands on the new update and we look forward to seeing your feedback on it!

-The EA SPORTS NHL team

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Old 01-25-2019, 04:40 PM   #2
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Re: Gameplay Updates Based on Beta Tuner Rollback Feedback

IF I enter an online game mode and download the new 1.03 will I then be able to use the new 1.03 in my franchise mode and other offline mode or will it only be the new tuner in online modes?
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According to the link that was originally provided, the tuners release has been delayed due to one of the changes not working properly....


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According to the link that was originally provided, the tuners release has been delayed due to one of the changes not working properly....


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Man, these guys are just really struggling... They're losing people at a time when hockey is possibly at its greatest. Sad. But it's across the board with sports games: try to make everyone happy, and you end up making everyone miserable. Good luck to all of them.
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Man, these guys are just really struggling... They're losing people at a time when hockey is possibly at its greatest. Sad. But it's across the board with sports games: try to make everyone happy, and you end up making everyone miserable. Good luck to all of them.
I'm as bored as you can get with all sports games and I'm sad about it.

I had some fun yesterday with MLB The Show 19 using 1987 rosters and using the Retro mode inside a Franchise. I'm sure that will wear off. Also player locked on Strawberry for some games and used that as a RTTS mode inside the Franchise.

UGH..
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I'm as bored as you can get with all sports games and I'm sad about it.

I had some fun yesterday with MLB The Show 19 using 1987 rosters and using the Retro mode inside a Franchise. I'm sure that will wear off. Also player locked on Strawberry for some games and used that as a RTTS mode inside the Franchise.

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I’m with you. Caught in a viscous love / hate relationship with my sports games.
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I'm as bored as you can get with all sports games and I'm sad about it.

I had some fun yesterday with MLB The Show 19 using 1987 rosters and using the Retro mode inside a Franchise. I'm sure that will wear off. Also player locked on Strawberry for some games and used that as a RTTS mode inside the Franchise.

UGH..
Thankfully I'm having a blast with Madden 19 rebuilding the Cardinals. I just can't bring myself to play NHL 19 for more than a game or two a week, if that. Too many other good games like Tomb Raider, RDR 2, Hitman 2, etc.. to spend my free time with.

NHL just feels like been there, done that. They have a lot of work in front of them for NHL 20. I'm definitely in the wait and see camp next year.
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I feel like a lot of sports games are getting stale with presentation and immersion so it's really hurting otherwise fairly solid gameplay experiences.

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