Screwing people over in item exchange.

[SisterRay]

So I saved like 1 month worth of coins and did probably 6x 5 star move exchanges because of the happy hour going on and I got the following:

4x gogoplata Nate Diaz
2x gullitine sprawl - Uriah Faber,Bas Rutten
1x Armbar full mount - Bas Rutten

I exchanged all different 4 star signature cards including stand up,ground,submissions etc. and I did not get any stand up moves and 4x of the same damn submission. I'm sure they adjusted the RNG so all you are going to get are these couple of ground submission cards(Nate Diaz gogo being the most common one). It's seems like they'll do any sleazy tactics to get people to buy more packs with money now...

I'm seriously done with this joke of a game. lol

[RTSImperator]

Re: Screwing people over in item exchange.

I've never really used item exchange (especially to that scale) so I can't relate, however whenever I have used it I don't think I've ever gotten a useful card from it, today I got a couple of dupes.

It's quite pathetic that the base item has pretty much no influence on the result of the exchange and with the RNG in general being rediculously poor odds.

I think the algorithms for RNG change on a daily basis, I've noticed when atleast buying packs that there are just some items that constantly pull up during that day.

I can definitely agree that it's sleazy.

[SisterRay]

Re: Screwing people over in item exchange.

I've never really used item exchange (especially to that scale) so I can't relate, however whenever I have used it I don't think I've ever gotten a useful card from it, today I got a couple of dupes.

It's quite pathetic that the base item has pretty much no influence on the result of the exchange and with the RNG in general being rediculously poor odds.

I think the algorithms for RNG change on a daily basis, I've noticed when atleast buying packs that there are just some items that constantly pull up during that day.

I can definitely agree that it's sleazy.

Ive reached the point where buying back is pretty pointless cause I have pretty much most of the cards lvl 4 and lower i need. I usually save up for item exchange since that's the best way to get lvl 5 cards imo.

I remember last time I did the item exchange happy hour the RNG was truly random cause I got some stand up 5 star moves,ground moves etc.

There's no way out of 80 plus random 5 star cards every single one of them was submission and 4 of them were the same card lol. Unless there was some manipulation going on. I even restarted and reload ut with different fighters and still got Nate Diaz gogo consecutively.

On a business level it makes sense since they aren't making money letting people trade in for potentially good cards then no one would be buying packs with real money.

It's worse then that other time were I brought like 55 packs and got ONE 5 star card lol

The RNG is a joke.

[RTSImperator]

Re: Screwing people over in item exchange.

I pretty much just buy packs for fighter set items/attributes (and hopefully some perks) often to no avail though.

Getting the same item 4 times is an utter joke though (and you may be right regarding manipulation), It's like a spit in the face to the paying customer. It's like "You bought the game now you can go **** yourself hahahah!" and "be sure to gamble some of your cash aswell".

All these triple A games just want to milk as much income of the consumer as possible, introducing the 'micro-transaction/rng' model to retail games (iirc it was originally used as an income source for f2p games).

Considering that some people have allegedly spent $1000+ alone on UT i can imagine that the money made from this is ludicrous with all the potential people spending real money on it.

Unless everyone were to just systematically/simultaneously stop spending money on UT or boycott said companies (EA in this case) products all together than we're probably going to be stuck with this crap.

[netsfreak]

Re: Screwing people over in item exchange.

Is there a happy hour going on currently?

If yes, do you know when it is set to expire?

I'm stuck at work all day so hope I didn't/don't miss it. I've been stockpiling coins and 4 star universal moves for this.

[RTSImperator]

Re: Screwing people over in item exchange.

Is there a happy hour going on currently?

If yes, do you know when it is set to expire?

I'm stuck at work all day so hope I didn't/don't miss it. I've been stockpiling coins and 4 star universal moves for this.

I don't know when it'll expire but it's on right now I beleive.

[SisterRay]

Re: Screwing people over in item exchange.

I pretty much just buy packs for fighter set items/attributes (and hopefully some perks) often to no avail though.

Getting the same item 4 times is an utter joke though (and you may be right regarding manipulation), It's like a spit in the face to the paying customer. It's like "You bought the game now you can go **** yourself hahahah!" and "be sure to gamble some of your cash aswell".

All these triple A games just want to milk as much income of the consumer as possible, introducing the 'micro-transaction/rng' model to retail games (iirc it was originally used as an income source for f2p games).

Considering that some people have allegedly spent $1000+ alone on UT i can imagine that the money made from this is ludicrous with all the potential people spending real money on it.

Unless everyone were to just systematically/simultaneously stop spending money on UT or boycott said companies (EA in this case) products all together than we're probably going to be stuck with this crap.

Yeah, I was saving up to buy those cheaper 6000 coin packs with a guaranteed fighter set which was a fair price until they raised it to 7,500 coins smh... I also have a sneaking suspicion the rarer fighter set items are also being manipulated to give you more duplicates. I've gotten multiple lvl 5 bisping,dos anjos,cormier fighter sets that all sell for 500 coins so I gave up on buying packs for fighter sets now lol so that's probably another area that is not even random.

I think I spent close to 200 bucks on ut in this game and realized that I could've bought like 3 full price games instead of wasting it on buying packs containing mostly duplicates and moves that increase the same stats. I was fine with it all until today wasting about 250000 coins I have saved up on damn duplicates that sell for 1500 coins. That was the final straw for me. I might play occasionally sometimes but I think I'm going to move on from this game.

[Supreme_Bananas]

Re: Screwing people over in item exchange.

Yeah, I was saving up to buy those cheaper 6000 coin packs with a guaranteed fighter set which was a fair price until they raised it to 7,500 coins smh... I also have a sneaking suspicion the rarer fighter set items are also being manipulated to give you more duplicates. I've gotten multiple lvl 5 bisping,dos anjos,cormier fighter sets that all sell for 500 coins so I gave up on buying packs for fighter sets now lol so that's probably another area that is not even random.

I think I spent close to 200 bucks on ut in this game and realized that I could've bought like 3 full price games instead of wasting it on buying packs containing mostly duplicates and moves that increase the same stats. I was fine with it all until today wasting about 250000 coins I have saved up on damn duplicates that sell for 1500 coins. That was the final straw for me. I might play occasionally sometimes but I think I'm going to move on from this game.

200 bucks?! Man EA must love you right now. But yeah item exchange is a complete waste of time, I already made a thread about this. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-exchange.html

[SisterRay]

Re: Screwing people over in item exchange.

200 bucks?! Man EA must love you right now. But yeah item exchange is a complete waste of time, I already made a thread about this. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-exchange.html

Yeah this was my first ut game and I got carried away. I won't make the same mistake in any future ea games lol

I dont even mind the randomness of the moves I get. last time I got different moves. This time they made it where it's not even random anymore. They gave me the same card 4 times.

It's also ridiculous you have to pay full price to exchange 5 5* for another 5* move.

[SisterRay]

Re: Screwing people over in item exchange.

It's no coincidence this other guy got the same submission moves I received. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0cgtWh418io

They really should change the "random" part of the description to "cards we handpicked for you".

I advise people who want to use item exchange on moves to reconsider unless you want a 5th armbar or guillotine. Use your coins on perk upgrade since that one actually is random.

[whitebelt]

Re: Screwing people over in item exchange.

I agree regarding 5 star trade ins. It should either not exist, or trading 5x 5-star moves should allow you to choose any 5 star move, or at least perhaps choose a random 5 star within a narrow range you choose (ie, body punch, head kick, guard submission, joint submission, etc.)

[whitebelt]

Re: Screwing people over in item exchange.

I just blew 100k coins and actually just got 5 unique 5 star submissions. I think its because I used really good unique 4 star trade in cards. Each trade I had 50% to 70% chance of unique. I got a royce gracie guard armbar, uriah faber flying RNC, generic single collar flying armbar, generic armbar side saddle, and a generic armbar crucifix

[netsfreak]

Re: Screwing people over in item exchange.

I got lot of duplicates of the same moves... Nate Diaz Triangle, Uriah Faber guillotine choke, Armbars from full mount (Sakaraba and Nogueira).

Single pulls of Royce Gracie arm bar from guard, Uriah Faber choke flying rear naked and Damian Maia BJJ Reversal, but I already pulled that with a 40k item exchange last week.

I was hoping to since these were all submissions that I could get the Frank Mir kimura from side control but no luck there. At this point in the life cycle of the game and how many hours I have put into it there really aren't moves I don't have in some form.

[SisterRay]

Re: Screwing people over in item exchange.

I got lot of duplicates of the same moves... Nate Diaz Triangle, Uriah Faber guillotine choke, Armbars from full mount (Sakaraba and Nogueira).

Single pulls of Royce Gracie arm bar from guard, Uriah Faber choke flying rear naked and Damian Maia BJJ Reversal, but I already pulled that with a 40k item exchange last week.

I was hoping to since these were all submissions that I could get the Frank Mir kimura from side control but no luck there. At this point in the life cycle of the game and how many hours I have put into it there really aren't moves I don't have in some form.

Right, if theyre only giving us submissions at least give us good ones like Kimura or something. I don't even mind those worthless cage suplex moves.

I need stand up moves. Stuff like roundhouse,calf,teep kick. Straight cross, stiff jab etc.

Well the thing I'm trying to get at is how they are false advertising by saying "random" instead of a description like "you will get a submission move".

[Supreme_Bananas]

Re: Screwing people over in item exchange.

Right, if theyre only giving us submissions at least give us good ones like Kimura or something. I don't even mind those worthless cage suplex moves.

I need stand up moves. Stuff like roundhouse,calf,teep kick. Straight cross, stiff jab etc.

Well the thing I'm trying to get at is how they are false advertising by saying "random" instead of a description like "you will get a submission move".

True, and the vague "same item type" tells us nothing. You should vote in the poll I made, I'm interested in what you think