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  • #1
    Lung444
    Banned
    • May 2016
    • 117

    Arm trap stamina drain exploit


    This is ridiculous, if I'm postured up in full mount with full stamina, I shouldnt lose all my stamina when someone throws an arm trap sweep before I THROW ONE PUNCH. It's so unrealistic, I've never seen someone do that ever in real life. STOP PUTTING TATICAL EXPLOITS IN THIS GAME! Stop breaking positions with unrealistic bs. SOME stamina should be lost, I shouldn't be drained like I just got denied, and how about adding catching strikes where it belongs IN THE STANDUP!
    Last edited by Lung444; 06-10-2016, 07:20 PM.
  • #2
    neyney00
    Banned
    • Apr 2016
    • 264

    Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit


    Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit

    Originally posted by Lung444
    This is ridiculous, if I'm postured up in full mount with full stamina, I shouldnt lose all my stamina when someone throws an arm trap sweep before I THROW ONE PUNCH. It's so unrealistic, I've never seen someone do that ever in real life. STOP PUTTING TATICAL EXPLOITS IN THIS GAME! Stop breaking positions with unrealistic bs. SOME stamina should be lost, I shouldn't be drained like I just got denied, and how about adding catching strikes where it belongs IN THE STANDUP!
    Dude this bothers be so much. No way it should drain all the stamina. I'm OK with bottom fighter getting a slight stamina advantage after but like 10 percent at most. It doesn't take much skill to execute so it should only be a small reward for bottom fighter. If we could fake strikes on the ground I'd be okay with more of an advantage for bottom fighter.

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    • #3
      Bigg Cee
      MVP
      • Apr 2016
      • 4673

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      • #4
        RumbleCard
        MVP
        • Aug 2007
        • 1230

        Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit


        Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit

        But for the sake of playing devils advocate these 4 and 5 punch match ending strikes are way overpowered. I'm not saying that one or two punch KO's from the mount don't happen but there's usually a lot of back and forth grabbing and maneuvering to gain enough of an advantage to get those strikes off. The majority of the time a fighter can weather a storm of strikes and sometimes even hold out long enough for the ref to bring them back to their feet. It should be tough to get full mount and a real challenge to finish.
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        • #5
          Lung444
          Banned
          • May 2016
          • 117

          Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit


          Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit

          Originally posted by RumbleCard
          But for the sake of playing devils advocate these 4 and 5 punch match ending strikes are way overpowered. I'm not saying that one or two punch KO's from the mount don't happen but there's usually a lot of back and forth grabbing and maneuvering to gain enough of an advantage to get those strikes off. The majority of the time a fighter can weather a storm of strikes and sometimes even hold out long enough for the ref to bring them back to their feet. It should be tough to get full mount and a real challenge to finish.
          The drain is too severe, it should be some not all, not saying to get rid of arm trap

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          • #6
            Bigg Cee
            MVP
            • Apr 2016
            • 4673

            Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit


            Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit

            The answer is very simple for UFC 3 or UFC 2 by patch...

            Keep the arm trap because I do like it from full guard, but from full mount after you worked so hard to get top control to have this ugly thing happen. I don't need to repeat this over and over but it's a "Get Out Of Jail Free Card" and I have been screaming this since the game dropped and have given tons of info on how it's OP even with the stamina tax GPD said it has already taken a few times.

            The hip bump plus it's already very easy to get out from full mount is enough. Stop trying to always save ppl, let the game flow and not get bogged down by ugly gameplay mechanics.

            Arm trap from full guard looks great and looks realistic but from full mount it has to go.

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            • #7
              Dave_S
              Dave
              • Apr 2016
              • 7835

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              Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit

              It's freaking awesome from a defensive standpoint, from an offensive and also practical point it's freaking insane the way it is.

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              • #8
                Bigg Cee
                MVP
                • Apr 2016
                • 4673

                Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit


                Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit

                Originally posted by Dave_S
                It's freaking awesome from a defensive standpoint, from an offensive and also practical point it's freaking insane the way it is.
                Just like you said it Dave and just like the way the arm trap mechanic plays out... THERES NO MIDDLE GROUND!!!

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                • #9
                  Haz____
                  Omaewa mou shindeiru
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 4023

                  Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit


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                  Yeah.. Arm Trap draining all your stamina is INSANE. Then it gives you a sweep on top of that.... Uh... What???

                  Plus there's something to it that makes it extremely easy. Now let me preface this by saying, I suck at the Arm Trap for some reason. I can deny every transition, but my Arm Trap timing blows. HOWEVER, my close friend can Arm Trap damn near 100% of the time, and he can't deny a single transition..... His ground game is terrible. He hasn't even tried to learn the ground game, but can Arm Trap almost every single time. It's crazy. I asked him what he looks for, and he just shrugs and goes, " I dunnno, I just flick the stick".....

                  So either he's lying to me, and knows exactly what he's doing, or there's something seriously wrong here.
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                  • #10
                    Ksearyback
                    Pro
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 639

                    Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit


                    Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit

                    This entire subject is as simple as logic as far as I'm concerned. There shouldn't be any stamina drain for getting your arm trapped. Period. A grapple advantage? Sure. But it does not take energy from a person to get their arm trapped. Once again, these are the things that make this more arcade (tactical gaming inclined) rather than geared toward those who'd prefer a simulation.

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                    • #11
                      EJ_Manuel
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 464

                      Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit


                      Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit

                      Originally posted by Haz____
                      Yeah.. Arm Trap draining all your stamina is INSANE. Then it gives you a sweep on top of that.... Uh... What???

                      Plus there's something to it that makes it extremely easy. Now let me preface this by saying, I suck at the Arm Trap for some reason. I can deny every transition, but my Arm Trap timing blows. HOWEVER, my close friend can Arm Trap damn near 100% of the time, and he can't deny a single transition..... His ground game is terrible. He hasn't even tried to learn the ground game, but can Arm Trap almost every single time. It's crazy. I asked him what he looks for, and he just shrugs and goes, " I dunnno, I just flick the stick".....


                      So either he's lying to me, and knows exactly what he's doing, or there's something seriously wrong here.
                      I've had more than one time where I KNEW I flicked the stick the wrong way on an arm trap and got it anyway. All of a sudden I was in the middle of a sweep and I'm like..huh? And I KNEW I picked the wrong arm, no debate, and got it anyway.

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                      • #12
                        TheGentlemanGhost
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2016
                        • 1321

                        Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit


                        Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit

                        Arm trap should not equate to getting a sweep. That's the most ridiculous part about it imo. The method of gaining a sweep in this game is just not logical. I don't understand why any sweep can be done with a simple denial or arm trap. It should definitely take more effort to sweep anyone than one denial and motion.

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                        • #13
                          Dave_S
                          Dave
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 7835

                          Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit


                          Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit

                          Good 2.5 minute video showing this. I was surprised at how much stamina I lost even when I denied the sweep, and my opponents stamina after he threw arm trap that I denied and then he held me down. I was specifically paying attention to his stamina.

                          On a side note missing a power double because my opponent is rocked and stumbles out of the way is disheartening.

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                          • #14
                            ToeThatLineOrElse
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 4

                            Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit


                            Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit

                            Arm trap completely ruins ground and pound when person on bottom is turtling and you're trying to weaken their block, they should be losing stamina when just absorbing strikes

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                            • #15
                              Find_the_Door
                              Nogueira connoisseur
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 4053

                              Re: Arm trap stamina drain exploit


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                              It's fine as is if the current GnP damage is as it is.
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