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  • Shogun474
    Rookie
    • May 2016
    • 220

    #1

    If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

    If you are in the middle of whiffing the air with a missed strike you should not be able to simultaneously stuff my takedown

    I have even had dudes go from mid superman punch to landing and stuffing my takedown in a nano second.


    These Neo style reflexes have got to go!
    Last edited by Shogun474; 07-24-2016, 01:34 PM.
  • Bigg Cee
    MVP
    • Apr 2016
    • 4676

    #2
    Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

    Originally posted by Shogun474
    If you are in the middle of whiffing the air with a missed strike you should not be able to simultaneously stuff my takedown

    I have even had dudes go from mid superman punch to landing and stuffing my takedown in a nano second.


    Thes Neo style reflexes have got to go!
    Its not as bad a before but there still times ppl start spamming combos to the point there near empty but still deny my takedown unless i lean foward then shoot.

    Takedowns in UFC 3 do need to be re worked on how they get denied and how and when your allowed to shoot in.

    With that said takedowns in UFC 2 are pretty good right now. I'm a ground guy so I'm always going for takedowns.

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    • Morgan Monkman
      North of 60
      • Apr 2016
      • 1385

      #3
      Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

      Seems like clinch is the only way to get it to the ground in this game.

      I hate it.
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      • Shogun474
        Rookie
        • May 2016
        • 220

        #4
        Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

        Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
        Seems like clinch is the only way to get it to the ground in this game.

        I hate it.
        Exactly and the clinch is a mess

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        • Bigg Cee
          MVP
          • Apr 2016
          • 4676

          #5
          Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

          Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
          Seems like clinch is the only way to get it to the ground in this game.

          I hate it.
          Not really.

          You should really try takedowns by leaning back or squatting down then shoot. It works so good and the Meter fills up so fast that way. Since the last patch takedowns are perfect besides the few moments that happen when u get denied with no stamina but overall they are in a good spot.

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          • Morgan Monkman
            North of 60
            • Apr 2016
            • 1385

            #6
            Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

            Originally posted by Bigg Cee
            Not really.

            You should really try takedowns by leaning back or squatting down then shoot. It works so good and the Meter fills up so fast that way. Since the last patch takedowns are perfect besides the few moments that happen when u get denied with no stamina but overall they are in a good spot.
            Maybe agaisnt mediocre players. Anyone worth there salt at this game won't ger taken down anywhere other then the clinch.

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            • Bigg Cee
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 4676

              #7
              Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

              Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
              Maybe agaisnt mediocre players. Anyone worth there salt at this game won't ger taken down anywhere other then the clinch.

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              im ranked top 100 #34 ps4

              All I play are the top guys who spam crazy crap all game long and do the straight body kick combo or the leg kick to free head kick hit stun. So takedowns are all I got and trust me they work great. Sure I still may lose the fight standing but I always get atleast 3 or 4 plus takedowns a game.

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              • Morgan Monkman
                North of 60
                • Apr 2016
                • 1385

                #8
                Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

                Originally posted by Bigg Cee
                im ranked top 100 #34 ps4

                All I play are the top guys who spam crazy crap all game long and do the straight body kick combo or the leg kick to free head kick hit stun. So takedowns are all I got and trust me they work great. Sure I still may lose the fight standing but I always get atleast 3 or 4 plus takedowns a game.
                I know your rank already. Doesn't mean you're correct.

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                • Morgan Monkman
                  North of 60
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 1385

                  #9
                  Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

                  Originally posted by Bigg Cee
                  im ranked top 100 #34 ps4

                  All I play are the top guys who spam crazy crap all game long and do the straight body kick combo or the leg kick to free head kick hit stun. So takedowns are all I got and trust me they work great. Sure I still may lose the fight standing but I always get atleast 3 or 4 plus takedowns a game.
                  Izawataru for example, me and him have scrapped it out quite a few times always at heavyweight, I have koed him a few times and he has beaten me a few times, the only way he ever gets me to the ground is via clinch. He is #3 in the game.

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                  • Bigg Cee
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 4676

                    #10
                    Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

                    Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
                    I know your rank already. Doesn't mean you're correct.

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                    I guess the ground game is a no win with you. I tried but i give up. If you don't like the ground game then there's no point of me even trying to respond to you. You already have your mind made up and there's no going back.

                    Good Day!
                    Last edited by Bigg Cee; 07-24-2016, 03:20 PM.

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                    • Morgan Monkman
                      North of 60
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 1385

                      #11
                      Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

                      Originally posted by Bigg Cee
                      I guess the ground game is a no win with you. I tried but i give up. If you don't like the ground game then there's no point of me even trying to respond to you. You already have your mind made up and there's no going back.

                      Good Day!
                      I was talking about takedowns not liking or disliking the ground, dude.

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                      • TheGentlemanGhost
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2016
                        • 1321

                        #12
                        Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

                        The takedown denial where the grappler ends up on all fours just needs to go. It's pretty rare that I've seen someone go for a td all to helpless go on all fours and unable to fight for the td still. That animation needs to be replaced with a clinch that puts the fighters in position to still battle for position. Of course they could still keep the other denial animations like the simply shrug offs and etc.

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                        • manliest_Man
                          MVP
                          • May 2016
                          • 1203

                          #13
                          Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

                          Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
                          I was talking about takedowns not liking or disliking the ground, dude.
                          Dude, listen to someone who is better than you, if you want to get better at the game.

                          The takedowns have become much easier to land. Only problem the game has with them at this state, is that there is no proper tutorial to teach people like you the Grappling Advantage.

                          If you want to get a takedown you do these to get a GA and you can takedown anyone:

                          1)Avoid a strike with a Lunge then shoot.
                          2)Slip 1-2 strikes while holding L2 then shoot.
                          3)Trick your opponent into thinking you will clinch him,when he is near the cage for example, then shoot and he will most likely have pre-emptively denied a clinch attempt instead of a takedown and he won't be able to deny any transition for 2 seconds,which is your window to shoot.

                          Pro Tip: If you slip 3 strikes, no matter what takedown you attempt(heavy or normal) it's unblockable. Not even with pre-emptive takedown denials.

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                          I keep realising a lot of people don't udnerstand how the game mechanics work and come here and cry about nerfs etc. and the devs listen to them.


                          What the devs should do, is have a proper in-game tutorial that teaches advanced tactics like this with Grappling ADvantage etc. and once everyone is aware of how those things work, then they should start listening to the community on what needs to be changed.


                          I personally don't like the takedowns, because on the higher levels that i am at Div 6, you can get takedown spammers, who will get you down, due to the Keybindings being bugged and not registering a takedown denial every now and then.

                          Some heavy takedowns shouldn't be as easy to land as they are and should be much rarer. Which is why some UFC Undisputed 3 right stick circling to fight for a takedown was more realistic and didn't enable spamming as much.

                          I don't like the takedown system in EA UFC 2, which is based on timing a takedown after avoiding a strike or timing the denial with the RS properly turned 90° down or get Heavy Takendown and full mounted if the RS is at 88° and it registers it as a failed transition denial attempt.

                          Before a few patches, it was too easy to counter every takedown, by holding R2 + RS Down and pre-emptively denying them all. Now after the patch, if you miss a spinning kick/flying knee and the opponent shoots, it's over for you. You will have lower stamina and you are unable to block any type of takedown. Heavy or simple. So all they do in Div 6, is if you miss a kick, they will unrealistically jump at you and heatsink your leg, like a Tiger from a range longer than their striking range, take you down with a heavy takedown and automatically mount you due to your lowered stamina from a spinning strike.
                          Last edited by manliest_Man; 07-24-2016, 10:52 PM.

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                          • Morgan Monkman
                            North of 60
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 1385

                            #14
                            Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

                            Originally posted by manliest_Man
                            Dude, listen to someone who is better than you, if you want to get better at the game.

                            The takedowns have become much easier to land. Only problem the game has with them at this state, is that there is no proper tutorial to teach people like you the Grappling Advantage.

                            If you want to get a takedown you do these to get a GA and you can takedown anyone:

                            1)Avoid a strike with a Lunge then shoot.
                            2)Slip 1-2 strikes while holding L2 then shoot.
                            3)Trick your opponent into thinking you will clinch him,when he is near the cage for example, then shoot and he will most likely have pre-emptively denied a clinch attempt instead of a takedown and he won't be able to deny any transition for 2 seconds,which is your window to shoot.

                            I keep realising a lot of people don't udnerstand how the game mechanics work and come here and cry about nerfs etc. and the devs listen to them.

                            What the devs should do, is have a proper in-game tutorial that teaches advanced tactics like this with Grappling ADvantage etc. and once everyone is aware of how those things work, then they should start listening to the community on what needs to be changed.


                            I personally don't like the takedowns, because on the higher levels that i am at Div 6, you can get takedown spammers, who will get you down, due to the Keybindings being bugged.

                            Some heavy takedowns shouldn't be as easy to land as they are and should be much rarer.

                            I don't like the takedown system, which is based on timing a takedown after avoiding a strike or timing the denial or get Heavy Takendown and full mounted.
                            How do you know he is better then me?

                            Also, for someone who makes 10 posts a day complaining about Mike Tyson I find your post quite funny.

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                            • Shogun474
                              Rookie
                              • May 2016
                              • 220

                              #15
                              Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

                              Originally posted by Bigg Cee
                              Not really.

                              You should really try takedowns by leaning back or squatting down then shoot. It works so good and the Meter fills up so fast that way. Since the last patch takedowns are perfect besides the few moments that happen when u get denied with no stamina but overall they are in a good spot.
                              This actually works thanks cuz

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