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**TheRizzzle** · 01-31-2017, 12:30 PM

Re: Does damage to limbs affect power?

Originally posted by JustBlazeM8

I've always wondered this but never knew if this was actually a thing.

If I attack the right arm constantly, would their right arm be weaker when they're punching? Or if I attack their lead leg (for instance, left leg), would their left leg dish out less damage? I know this is a system which helps subs, but didn't know if it directly affects the opponent's striking power.

Alternatively, would you like to see this in UFC 3?

I would like to see it.

I've always wanted the damage to carry throughout the fight like this. Fighters don't regenerate in the middle of a fight in real life. If they take damage, it stays and becomes an issue throughout the fight.

I feel like they would need to tone down the effect of each individual strike in order to account for the accumulative damage. As it stands now I feel like accumulated damage would lead to even less decisions.

Which leads me to a point that doesn't get brought up often enough.

Most fighters in the UFC don't have fight ending power the way the game sometimes plays out. That's why there are more decisions in real life and a lot of late stoppages are more a result of wearing a fighter down.

One punch knockout power should be rare and elite for some fighters, and almost non-existent for others. Unfortunately that doesn't leaf to a very balanced video game and online players would raise hell.

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**HereticGabriel** · 01-31-2017, 01:25 PM

Re: Does damage to limbs affect power?

I was always under the assumption that limb damage had no affect on subs? I use to smash peoples legs then go for a heel hook, or kill their arms and go for an armbar, and regardess if it was bright red or untouched, the gate speed seemed the exact same?

Does stamina affect subs? Ive had the same thing, drain stamina or full, doesn't seem to be any difference

Far as damage, I would assume it doesn't as I have been/seen people get rocked by a right hand, when that persons right arm can't even block? But who knows

**TheRizzzle** · 01-31-2017, 01:42 PM

Re: Does damage to limbs affect power?

Originally posted by HereticGabriel

I was always under the assumption that limb damage had no affect on subs? I use to smash peoples legs then go for a heel hook, or kill their arms and go for an armbar, and regardess if it was bright red or untouched, the gate speed seemed the exact same?

Does stamina affect subs? Ive had the same thing, drain stamina or full, doesn't seem to be any difference

Far as damage, I would assume it doesn't as I have been/seen people get rocked by a right hand, when that persons right arm can't even block? But who knows

I don't think it does in this game, but I'd love for it to have an effect in future games.

I think they have shied away from it to keep the game balanced, but it takes away an element of strategy IMO.

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**Haz____** · 01-31-2017, 01:45 PM

Re: Does damage to limbs affect power?

For any of this to matter, damage needs to not regenerate so quickly.

You can spend 4 minutes straight slamming leg kicks into your opponent, then wait 10 seconds their leg is fully back to normal again....

Or spend tons of effort breaking down your opponents arms to try and break through block, only to have their arms regenerate in a matter of seconds.

Damage regenerates way way waaaaay too quickly.

**Generative James** · 01-31-2017, 03:04 PM

Re: Does damage to limbs affect power?

Originally posted by Haz____

For any of this to matter, damage needs to not regenerate so quickly.

You can spend 4 minutes straight slamming leg kicks into your opponent, then wait 10 seconds their leg is fully back to normal again....

Or spend tons of effort breaking down your opponents arms to try and break through block, only to have their arms regenerate in a matter of seconds.

Damage regenerates way way waaaaay too quickly.

This. I actually tried to do some testing on limb damage affecting power but got inconclusive results... at best, partly because of this.

Absolutely like to see limb damage affecting power in the next game!

What about liver damage? I hear Rogan in the replays talking about liver shots but it's usually when the kick lands on the wrong side. I think if your fighting in southpaw and your opponent is in orthodox, your rear leg body roundhouse kicks should do more damage than his, all other things equal, just because yours is actually landing on a liver and his isn't.

**Boiler569** · 01-31-2017, 03:06 PM

Re: Does damage to limbs affect power?

+100 re: damage should stick longer

I'm almost 100% sure damage to limb doesn't affect striking power of that limb.

Damage to your leg does, very slightly, reduce your grappling advantage. Not really noticeable or effective enough to build a strategy around though IMO

**SUGATA** · 01-31-2017, 06:13 PM

Re: Does damage to limbs affect power?

As i tested before, the answer is NO.

TOTAL damage - the cumulative final damage based on summary of several factors.

STAND UP Striking:
 1) Strike SPEED depends on:
- my fighter’s attributes (“Speed” attributes)
- my Stamina
- not depends on my striking limb’s Health
2) Total Strike DAMAGE depends on:
- both fighter’s attributes (my “Power” attributes and opponent’s “Health” attributes)
- my Stamina (more Stamina – more damage & FBHR)
- opponent’s Stamina (less Stamina – more damage & FBHR)
- not depends on my striking limb’s Health
- final Total Strike damage depends also on additional Damage multipliers from: 1. Combo multiplier (CM) 2. Counter window (CW) 3. Momentum - physics driven damage with the right timing (when opponent is moving toward my strike).
> The best conditions for my Strike is [when I have SA over the opponent – the more Stamina difference/advantage amount the better].


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1) Strike SPEED depends on:
- my Stamina
- not depends on my fighter’s attributes (the same Strike speed for all over all divisions/weights)
- not depends on my striking limb’s Health
2) Total Strike DAMAGE depends on:
- both fighter’s attributes (“Clinch power” in Clinch, “Ground and Pound” in Ground)
- my Stamina (more Stamina – more damage & FBHR)
- opponent’s Stamina (less Stamina – more damage & FBHR)
- not depends on my striking limb’s Health
- final Total Strike damage NOT depends also on additional Damage multipliers from: 1. Combo multiplier (CM) 2. Counter window (CW) 3. Momentum - physics driven damage with the right timing (when opponent is moving toward my strike) – because in Clinch/Ground does NOT exist 1, 2, 3.
> The best conditions for my Strike is [when I have SA over the opponent – the more Stamina difference/advantage amount the better].

The only thing which depends on Limb's health is Block efficiency (how much incoming dmg block absorbs) and a bit Moving speed and GA for TD attempt when legs are damaged.
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