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  • Bigg Cee
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    • Apr 2016
    • 4684

    #31
    Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

    Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
    I was super hyped for the last two and ended up being disappointed. I'll go into this with a skeptical optimism.

    Seriously hated the ground game!
    The ground game is the best part of UFC 2.

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    • Haz____
      Omaewa mou shindeiru
      • Apr 2016
      • 4033

      #32
      Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

      Originally posted by Bigg Cee
      The ground game is the best part of UFC 2.
      As a guy who is completely obsessed with Jiu Jitsu....

      The ground is pretty mehhhhh
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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33173

        #33
        Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

        Originally posted by Bigg Cee
        The ground game is the best part of UFC 2.
        Completely agree. It can be improved but there are way bigger issues with the game. Its also probably the most realistic mechanic of the game.

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        • Haz____
          Omaewa mou shindeiru
          • Apr 2016
          • 4033

          #34
          Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

          Originally posted by aholbert32
          Completely agree. It can be improved but there are way bigger issues with the game. Its also probably the most realistic mechanic of the game.
          See, I don't think it feels all that realistic.. Things like a magical Grapple Advantage that just build up for no reason are purely video gamey mechanics.

          Don't get me wrong, I have a blast grappling in UFC 2, and it's an improvement over the last game, but IMO it still needs quite a bit of work.
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          • aholbert32
            (aka Alberto)
            • Jul 2002
            • 33173

            #35
            Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

            Originally posted by Haz____
            See, I don't think it feels all that realistic.. Things like a magical Grapple Advantage that just build up for no reason are purely video gamey mechanics.

            Don't get me wrong, I have a blast grappling in UFC 2, and it's an improvement over the last game, but IMO it still needs quite a bit of work.
            I think we agree. What I meant was that it was way more realistic than the other mechanics. Way more realistic than the clinch or that fighting game combos striking system.
            Last edited by aholbert32; 02-01-2017, 02:47 PM.

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            • SUGATA
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              • Apr 2016
              • 1377

              #36
              Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

              Originally posted by Haz____
              See, I don't think it feels all that realistic.. Things like a magical Grapple Advantage that just build up for no reason are purely video gamey mechanics.

              Don't get me wrong, I have a blast grappling in UFC 2, and it's an improvement over the last game, but IMO it still needs quite a bit of work.
              When GA is building up for no reason do u think?

              What exactly in Dynamic grappling mechanics do you think is not realistic, why and what is your solution for this?
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              • Haz____
                Omaewa mou shindeiru
                • Apr 2016
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                #37
                Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

                Originally posted by SUGATA
                When GA is building up for no reason do u think?

                What exactly in Dynamic grappling mechanics do you think is not realistic, why and what is your solution for this?
                Sitting in sidecontrol, GA just builds for no reason.
                Nothing about that is realistic. It's purely there as a video game mechanic to "balance" the position. Balance the position with real mechanics, like transitions, and blocks, fakes, not under the hood magic Grapple Advantage.

                In Sprawl GA just builds for no reason.
                Again, nothing about that is realistic.

                Leaning back to "slip" strikes builds magic GA for no reason.
                Ducking a hook and shooting a takedown makes sense. Leaning back, avoiding a jab, and shooting a takedown does not. You will never ever see a guy shoot a takedown IRL after leaning back. Takedowns need to be about timing, not an under the hood magic Grapple Advantage.

                Baby punches building up a magic GA
                Nothing realistic about that. I understand throwing a strike to set up or distract so you can transition, or submission, but again, I can't stand the idea of an under the hood magic meter that just lets you do things.




                Momentum Advantage is a great mechanics that reflects real life grappling very very well.

                Grapple Advantage is only there to balance things that "can't be balanced with real mechanics"
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                • SUGATA
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                  • Apr 2016
                  • 1377

                  #38
                  Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

                  Originally posted by Haz____
                  Sitting in sidecontrol, GA just builds for no reason.
                  Nothing about that is realistic. It's purely there as a video game mechanic to "balance" the position. Balance the position with real mechanics, like transitions, and blocks, fakes, not under the hood magic Grapple Advantage.

                  In Sprawl GA just builds for no reason.
                  Again, nothing about that is realistic.

                  Leaning back to "slip" strikes builds magic GA for no reason.
                  Ducking a hook and shooting a takedown makes sense. Leaning back, avoiding a jab, and shooting a takedown does not. You will never ever see a guy shoot a takedown IRL after leaning back. Takedowns need to be about timing, not an under the hood magic Grapple Advantage.

                  Baby punches building up a magic GA
                  Nothing realistic about that. I understand throwing a strike to set up or distract so you can transition, or submission, but again, I can't stand the idea of an under the hood magic meter that just lets you do things.




                  Momentum Advantage is a great mechanics that reflects real life grappling very very well.

                  Grapple Advantage is only there to balance things that "can't be balanced with real mechanics"

                  1) and 2) - i think auto regain GA for sub fighter over time is explained in irl context by that it requires static pushing/holding the opponent which drain your capabilities.

                  3) BWD Sway as i know does not grant GA for swaying fighter, conversely it grant him Grappling disadvantage... which is realistic because his weight center is transfering backward.

                  4) Any landed strike distract the opponent and so gives you a GA on Ground _after_ hit, not during its execution, which instead gives u a grapple disadvantage).

                  Also, i love that GA is building up when in stand up u are close to the cage, this also i think is realistic.

                  So, i personally dont see any dramatic issues with realism in GA on the ground.
                  Last edited by SUGATA; 02-01-2017, 04:11 PM.
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                  • Haz____
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                    • Apr 2016
                    • 4033

                    #39
                    Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

                    I completely disagree with you. But we'll have to leave it at that.
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                    • Boiler569
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                      • Apr 2016
                      • 2011

                      #40
                      Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

                      Originally posted by Haz____
                      Excited for UFC 3, but in no rush. Take your time, and get it right!
                      agree, i have no problem with it coming out late 2018 if that's what it takes to bring it to the next level -----

                      but hey, if the execs at EA want to do Xmas 2017 or early 2018, .... that's cool too
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                      • GameplayDevUFC
                        Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 2840

                        #41
                        Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

                        It'll be next level no matter when it comes out, don't worry.

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                        • Kasel
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 354

                          #42
                          Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

                          Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
                          It'll be next level no matter when it comes out, don't worry.

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                          • SportsGameGod
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                            • Mar 2015
                            • 83

                            #43
                            They just want that rush from Ultimate Team sales.

                            Hopefully they fix a lot of the issues from the current game. Career mode for one.

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                            • Morgan Monkman
                              North of 60
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 1388

                              #44
                              Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

                              Well lets hope there is more to it than holding a stick in a direction and that the input lag is gone.
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                              • manliest_Man
                                MVP
                                • May 2016
                                • 1203

                                #45
                                Re: EA Sports UFC 3 Confirmed

                                Originally posted by SportsGameGod

                                Hopefully they fix a lot of the issues from the current game. Career mode for one.
                                Honestly I wouldn't set my expectations so high. At this point , if they didn't fix it with EA UFC 2 after all the requests from EA UFC 1, i doubt they'll be focusing it on 3. Maybe i am wrong and the fact that UFC got sold for 4 billion $ made EA think "Hmm the sport is worth that much? Let's give em money and make a career like the new FIFA games".

                                Personally though, i feel like the devs will make sure the gameplay gets the biggest focus and not the career/offline, because at this point, i am kind of convinced it'll most likely just be a gimmick.

                                I am sure they'll touch on it and put on some improvements, but i still think the game is gonna be online/multiplayer focused and me personally i am fine with it, although having seen Fight Night Career, i know it would be awesome if we also got one with UFC or if we got a similar career to Undisputed.
                                Last edited by manliest_Man; 02-01-2017, 07:08 PM.

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