Countering 1-2 body spam is egregiously hard.

[PapaLemur]

Three times now I have encountered players that will do nothing but throw 1-2s to the body. They will never back up no matter what. Easy to counter, right?

No. I must have hit the last guy with a counter uppercut while he's down there 15 times. I got for the hook after but you can block it He would get rocked more often than not but not for long and the cycle would continue. I block my body but some will get through. That combined with the stamina used to counter will always put you in a deficit.

It's not impossible to beat, but they should be getting put down by the fourth uppercut in a round. Of course they only hold head block so if you want to break their guard you have to use even MORE stamina. Speaking of, I have rarely ever broken someone's guard. Even if I turn the heat on and throw a 1-3-4-3 two times in a row they won't go down when rocked.

Anybody have similar experiences or any information I can use to better counter this tactic? These players aren't good and countering is not the issue. The problem is they can keep going even when I do hit them.

EDIT: I think you can really only break the guard with signature strikes like the overhand or a head kick. This absolutely should not be the case. I generally keep to the meat and potatoes of straights, uppercuts, and hooks but I should be able to finish guys easier without using big strikes.

[Sirsunny2]

Re: Countering 1-2 body spam is egregiously hard.

Three times now I have encountered players that will do nothing but throw 1-2s to the body. They will never back up no matter what. Easy to counter, right?

No. I must have hit the last guy with a counter uppercut while he's down there 15 times. I got for the hook after but you can block it He would get rocked more often than not but not for long and the cycle would continue. I block my body but some will get through. That combined with the stamina used to counter will always put you in a deficit.

It's not impossible to beat, but they should be getting put down by the fourth uppercut in a round. Of course they only hold head block so if you want to break their guard you have to use even MORE stamina. Speaking of, I have rarely ever broken someone's guard. Even if I turn the heat on and throw a 1-3-4-3 two times in a row they won't go down when rocked.

Anybody have similar experiences or any information I can use to better counter this tactic? These players aren't good and countering is not the issue. The problem is they can keep going even when I do hit them.

EDIT: I think you can really only break the guard with signature strikes like the overhand or a head kick. This absolutely should not be the case. I generally keep to the meat and potatoes of straights, uppercuts, and hooks but I should be able to finish guys easier without using big strikes.

When a guy is spamming these body punches, i always try to keep the distance, let him come in and throw a head kick. The key is also to mix it up a bit with you engaging first and land a combo that ends with a head kick. At least that is what i have been doing with pettis and it works quite well. Trying to lunge with l1, don't end up against the cage and throwing long strikes or combos is key a think for these 1-2 body and head spammers

[AeroZeppelin27]

Re: Countering 1-2 body spam is egregiously hard.

If you're using someone with knees you'll stop that sillyness pretty quickly,
I was barboza last night against Nate, he dived in with a few low 1-2's in a row, on the third on I hit R2+X while he was going low, BLAM, night night.

Of course only a few fighters have knees so this isn't a one stop fix, but as above said, side stepping can work, so can well timed body kicks as they'll go to the head of a ducking opponent, I'm always getting caught by the CPU while trying to work out body combos (other than 1-2)

That said, 1-2's are either too fast or too powerful. Id rather they lost their power and kept their speed, atleast jabs, i tired of Jab KO's lol.

[Solid_Altair]

Re: Countering 1-2 body spam is egregiously hard.

The body 1-2s are the only strikes with no stopping power, I think. So, you can trade with them, using uppers, without needing to try to block, first.

[AeroZeppelin27]

Re: Countering 1-2 body spam is egregiously hard.

The body 1-2s are the only strikes with no stopping power, I think. So, you can trade with them, using uppers, without needing to try to block, first.

I wondered why the jab didn't cancel my knee, thanks, this is real handy to know.

[veddartha]

Re: Countering 1-2 body spam is egregiously hard.

I don't know if you're talking about UFC2 or UFC3. If UFC2, you're right, that was one of my complaints about that game and I did not found a solution at all, just keeping the distance and trying uppercuts.

In UFC3 it does not seem a problem anymore to be honest. The problem now is 1-2 body kick, it's fast, decent damage and demolishes your stamina if spammed.

[Solid_Altair]

Re: Countering 1-2 body spam is egregiously hard.

It's a good counter against blocking. Gotta slip.

[bmlimo]

Re: Countering 1-2 body spam is egregiously hard.

leg kick the modafoca... upper him

[bmlimo]

Re: Countering 1-2 body spam is egregiously hard.

I don't know if you're talking about UFC2 or
In UFC3 it does not seem a problem anymore to be honest. The problem now is 1-2 body kick, it's fast, decent damage and demolishes your stamina if spammed.

should have a window for counter when u defend cuz is really fast

[YourFatZebra]

Re: Countering 1-2 body spam is egregiously hard.

I feel like the devs lied about the jab in the striking deep dive. They said nothing can counter it if thrown afterwards, and that just isn't true in my experience playing the game. It's laughable that Eddie has 90 striking speed, Nate has 91, yet they are lightyears apart in the actual game. The delay from button press to actually throwing the shot is gamebreaking when facing the AI, who doesn't have to deal with that same delay and can always interrupt your strikes as a result.

[jayraff]

Re: Countering 1-2 body spam is egregiously hard.

I don't know if you're talking about UFC2 or UFC3. If UFC2, you're right, that was one of my complaints about that game and I did not found a solution at all, just keeping the distance and trying uppercuts.

In UFC3 it does not seem a problem anymore to be honest. The problem now is 1-2 body kick, it's fast, decent damage and demolishes your stamina if spammed.

This. It just sucks.


High block seems to be quick enough but when you try to switch between or body block a kick that is coming in it almost never blocks in time. Try this in practice - strike recording. Throw a jab - body kick. Try to block the jab and then transition to the body kick. Very difficult even when you know it is coming. Blocks need to be sped up. This is a video game and you lack the ability to read the body quite as well, so we need quicker reacting blocks. Nothing more annoying than someone spamming a jab kick combo and knowing how to counter/beat them but the game is holding you back.

[TheGentlemanGhost]

Re: Countering 1-2 body spam is egregiously hard.

I feel like the devs lied about the jab in the striking deep dive. They said nothing can counter it if thrown afterwards, and that just isn't true in my experience playing the game. It's laughable that Eddie has 90 striking speed, Nate has 91, yet they are lightyears apart in the actual game. The delay from button press to actually throwing the shot is gamebreaking when facing the AI, who doesn't have to deal with that same delay and can always interrupt your strikes as a result.

For the most part, the jab has been effective against a lot of spam. BUT the input lag has killed me.

[a4einboy]

Re: Countering 1-2 body spam is egregiously hard.

can someone help me out ive made this account in march of this year and i still cant make a new thread it says i dont have premmision can someone let me know whats going on i would lik to post my feedback on the beta thank you

[Skufflz]

Re: Countering 1-2 body spam is egregiously hard.

can someone help me out ive made this account in march of this year and i still cant make a new thread it says i dont have premmision can someone let me know whats going on i would lik to post my feedback on the beta thank you

Go to the beta feedback thread and post it there instead of making a new thread.

[stephengreen]

Re: Countering 1-2 body spam is egregiously hard.

For the most part, the jab has been effective against a lot of spam. BUT the input lag has killed me.

What about the catch? Is that delayed or is it faster?