Adding a button press to catching kicks?

[Pappy Knuckles]

Counters from caught kicks are very powerful in this game and I'm learning to be very mindful of when I throw them because of it. I don't have an issue with that, but I feel like the majority of the time people aren't even anticipating the kicks, they're just blocking low and happen to catch it.

I would like to see this be a more specified action from the user with the use of an additional face button. Whether guessing wrong on the catch also results in eating the kick altogether is a separate issue, but I'm just posting this to gauge how others feel.

[johnmangala]

Re: Adding a button press to catching kicks?

Like the old parries? So adding a kick button? I wouldn't mind.

I wish we could block the free shot and there would be a block meter depletion so after the 3rd or 4th caught kick that counter would break the block.

[Solid_Altair]

Re: Adding a button press to catching kicks?

I disagree.

I do think it could be interesting to allow the punch to be blocked, though, maybe at least partially. It would make the TD options more interesting.

[AlEx3KillA]

Re: Adding a button press to catching kicks?

The free cheesy strike that rocks you after they catch a kick needs to go away if you block it

[manliest_Man]

Re: Adding a button press to catching kicks?

We need an ARM Grab Animation or smth to defend it.

Once somebody catches your kick, you should be able to time an arm grab or a takedown block.

Like getting mounted and have the opoponent posture up

[Boiler569]

Re: Adding a button press to catching kicks?

I see where you're coming from for sure

IMO though I think the catch window should just be shortened slightly; and damage from body kicks increased slightly

If you are 'good' at defending body kicks you should mostly be blocking them, not catching them.

At this point I either land a body kick or it's caught. It's almost never just blocked. I thnk a blocked body kick should be easier/more common than a caught kick.

It'd be cool if your block skill was associated with your ability to catch kicks --- lower block skill = less chance to catch

[TheJamesKraus]

Re: Adding a button press to catching kicks?

The kick catch has been patched??

I haven’t experienced it at all since the patch.

Yes, I’ve had kicks caught but I don’t think it is as bad and as easy as it was. If you set kicks up now you can punish someone. I think the balance is fine atm.

[Ciaranmiller]

Re: Adding a button press to catching kicks?

i think just adding a block to the punch but with more bleed through after a few could be the answer we're going for realism after all. it's weird that you cant block

[Ciaranmiller]

Re: Adding a button press to catching kicks?

or maybe if you hold high block the takedown advances them into a better position or gives you a stamina drain when you hit the mat.

[Boiler569]

Re: Adding a button press to catching kicks?

The kick catch has been patched??

I haven’t experienced it at all since the patch.

Yes, I’ve had kicks caught but I don’t think it is as bad and as easy as it was. If you set kicks up now you can punish someone. I think the balance is fine atm.

My big issue is that against elite competition --- you either land the kick, or they catch it and punish you badly. Seems to rarely be a 'block' --- either it lands or they catch it.

I can land 8 body kicks in a 3-round fight and it will help me win. But they just need to catch the other 2 kicks (out of 10) and they can change the fight very significantly.

that's an 8:2 (4:1) ratio

So you can land 4 out of 5 body kicks.....and MAYBE you will break even........that's rough.

If even one of those two kicks turned into a Block instead of a Catch it would make all the difference.


I'm OK with keeping the body kick catch window the same --- IF --- body kick damage is boosted 25%

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: Adding a button press to catching kicks?

I see where you're coming from for sure

IMO though I think the catch window should just be shortened slightly; and damage from body kicks increased slightly

If you are 'good' at defending body kicks you should mostly be blocking them, not catching them.

At this point I either land a body kick or it's caught. It's almost never just blocked. I thnk a blocked body kick should be easier/more common than a caught kick.

It'd be cool if your block skill was associated with your ability to catch kicks --- lower block skill = less chance to catch

I agree with what you're saying about mostly blocking them, and I like your idea a lot. That could probably go a long way towards cleaning it up a bit.

My thinking behind the thread was just due to seeing kicks caught at such a high rate in this game. I figure if they're going to be getting caught anyway, at least make it where the person has to intentionally go for it. With the parries it was problematic because you could do that all fight and the risk was minimal. I don't think a similar mechanic with kicks would be as problematic, but who knows.

I like Manliest's thoughts as well.

To be clear, in no way do I think that this is nearly the problem that parries were, but it can look kind of weird at times where you're rocking each other back and forth due to it. I figure there's probably some solution to make it look a little better because you don't see kicks caught at this rate in real fights.

[Generative James]

Re: Adding a button press to catching kicks?

I wish this whole situation could be developed more.

I'd like something where the attacker (who caught the kick) has like 4 options. A punch to the head, a punch to the body and takedowns in a couple different directions, all of which could be defended with the correct block or a denial in the correct direction.

Then we'd see some variety. Right now, it always plays out the same. I'm shocked if a caught kick ends in anything but a punch to the head, usually rock inducing.

But if the position can't be developed more, or even if it can, I'd like to see it require a button or something more than just blocking to actually catch the kick in the 1st place. The risk reward ratio is currently off.

[jamesbenz1993]

Re: Adding a button press to catching kicks?

I catch almost every body kick thrown at me, it’s beautiful because I get a free takedown, I think the catch window needs to be a bit smaller and if the opponents legs caught they should be able to roll out, I believe I’ve seen Ferg do it before not positive tho.

[Freshly Baked Gregg]

Re: Adding a button press to catching kicks?

Like the old parries? So adding a kick button? I wouldn't mind.



I wish we could block the free shot and there would be a block meter depletion so after the 3rd or 4th caught kick that counter would break the block.

Too over convoluted. Blocking a punch with little gloves from someone who has your leg caught is almost impossible to pull off.


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[shadowgate316]

Re: Adding a button press to catching kicks?

Would going back to the UFC 2 blocking layout for high and low block while using the current 2 button body blocking layout for catching kicks possibly be a remedy for this?