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  • Find_the_Door
    Nogueira connoisseur
    • Jan 2012
    • 4051

    #1

    Combo Spam

    Why is there not a severe stamina tax for throwing missed or blocked combos in succession? Combos should be something that you are rewarded for timing with perfection and something you're punished heavily for if you resort to spamming it.

    But if anything - my goodness a stamina tax is needed and I'm talking a big adjustment!
    Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame
  • AlexSavaliuc
    Rookie
    • Mar 2018
    • 46

    #2
    Re: Combo Spam

    Originally posted by Find_the_Door
    Why is there not a severe stamina tax for throwing missed or blocked combos in succession? Combos should be something that you are rewarded for timing with perfection and something you're punished heavily for if you resort to spamming it.

    But if anything - my goodness a stamina tax is needed and I'm talking a big adjustment!
    I already end stamina in round 1.No please

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    • CipTm
      Rookie
      • Nov 2017
      • 85

      #3
      Re: Combo Spam

      why do you end stamina in round 1 ? i throw 250-300 strikes in 3 rounds . my opponent throws more than 200 , we both still have stamina , and this is post patch , i can attach pictures if needed

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      • AlexSavaliuc
        Rookie
        • Mar 2018
        • 46

        #4
        Re: Combo Spam

        Originally posted by CipTm
        why do you end stamina in round 1 ? i throw 250-300 strikes in 3 rounds . my opponent throws more than 200 , we both still have stamina , and this is post patch , i can attach pictures if needed
        i end stamina throwing single shots and overhands

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        • xFINISHxHIMx
          Banned
          • Aug 2017
          • 747

          #5
          Re: Combo Spam

          I actually wanted to start a thread about stamina tax but I'll just post this here. You're welcome Shiz

          would add a tax or higher tax for....

          1. Combo spam. (Very important) throwing over 100 sign punches and 100 light punches in each round, every match. Damn son that's not realistic... it happens but it is not happening in every 2nd fight. Dominick Cruz is only fighting twice a year at best.

          2. Blocked punches. (Very important) it's simply way too low. Combo combo combo. All blocked. (See counter window below)

          3. Sways higher tax. (Important Headmovement standing is good how it is)

          4. Holding the block constantly. (Minimal tax for that but it has to have an effect in later rounds) holding your hands up for 3-5 rounds is not as easy as it sounds. No fighter holds high block constantly. Unrealistic.

          5. Kicks and missed kicks. (High kicks also cover a crazy amount of distance just like the overhand)

          6. Overhands. (Minimal higher tax. Leg Kick overhand combo is cheese)

          Damage and vulnerability
          7. Decrease power of rocked opponent strikes during health event (way too many comeback KOs)

          8. McGregors counter power and speed is insane. (Might not be necessary with a higher tax on hook combo spam) his chin is granite too it needs tuning imo.

          9. Longer counter window after a heavy punch or hard combo was blocked. Seems to be a bit short to get something significant in the actual window a jab works but that doesnt really do much damage to an opponent.

          10. Increase leg check damage. I'm blocking so many, a checked kick hurts man. That hurts. I would think twice about it if I ever kicked a metal pole. Luckily I was never stupid enough to try that.

          11. Chin and condition/body health on low stamina needs higher vulnerability. People aren't scared to lose stamina. Power and speedy combos are still good enough even, if 80% stamina is gone.

          Probably forgot a couple but what's your thoughts on this ^^ just start with the number and tell me what you think.

          Also the posture up in full guard is broken needs a fix quick
          Last edited by xFINISHxHIMx; 03-29-2018, 06:40 AM.

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          • ryangil23
            Rookie
            • May 2016
            • 418

            #6
            Re: Combo Spam

            When is the USADA version of the game out?

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            • MartialMind
              EA Game Changer
              • Apr 2016
              • 321

              #7
              Re: Combo Spam

              I completely disagree with any form of additional stamina tax for blocked strikes.

              Again, this is a buff to block, and I personally don't want that.

              What we need are more ways to force a whiff with footwork, one that'll count as "evaded". This way with a combination of block, head movement, and footwork we can deal with hard combos by making them whiff... That's how we should be trying to drain their stamina.

              More on this later.

              Sent from my MI MAX 2 using Operation Sports mobile app

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              • ImAnOlogist
                Rookie
                • Jan 2018
                • 381

                #8
                Re: Combo Spam

                Originally posted by MartialMind
                I completely disagree with any form of additional stamina tax for blocked strikes.

                Again, this is a buff to block, and I personally don't want that.

                What we need are more ways to force a whiff with footwork, one that'll count as "evaded". This way with a combination of block, head movement, and footwork we can deal with hard combos by making them whiff... That's how we should be trying to drain their stamina.

                More on this later.

                Sent from my MI MAX 2 using Operation Sports mobile app
                If anything holding block should have a slow depletion of the current stamina pool. A stamina tax on blocked strikes is huge buff on blocking when it's already as overpowered in it's current form.

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                • Find_the_Door
                  Nogueira connoisseur
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 4051

                  #9
                  Re: Combo Spam

                  Originally posted by MartialMind
                  I completely disagree with any form of additional stamina tax for blocked strikes.

                  Again, this is a buff to block, and I personally don't want that.

                  What we need are more ways to force a whiff with footwork, one that'll count as "evaded". This way with a combination of block, head movement, and footwork we can deal with hard combos by making them whiff... That's how we should be trying to drain their stamina.

                  More on this later.

                  Sent from my MI MAX 2 using Operation Sports mobile app
                  Well they clearly aren't interested in punishing these cavemen for throwing at the air. I'm just about done with this game.
                  Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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                  • bmlimo
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 1123

                    #10
                    Re: Combo Spam

                    Originally posted by MartialMind
                    I completely disagree with any form of additional stamina tax for blocked strikes.

                    Again, this is a buff to block, and I personally don't want that.

                    What we need are more ways to force a whiff with footwork, one that'll count as "evaded". This way with a combination of block, head movement, and footwork we can deal with hard combos by making them whiff... That's how we should be trying to drain their stamina.

                    More on this later.

                    Sent from my MI MAX 2 using Operation Sports mobile app
                    Simple more tax stamina for blocked strikes and nerf block... block its like a shield right now because u have to defend 300 strikes in every round

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                    • Phillyboi207
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 3159

                      #11
                      Re: Combo Spam

                      Originally posted by MartialMind
                      I completely disagree with any form of additional stamina tax for blocked strikes.

                      Again, this is a buff to block, and I personally don't want that.

                      What we need are more ways to force a whiff with footwork, one that'll count as "evaded". This way with a combination of block, head movement, and footwork we can deal with hard combos by making them whiff... That's how we should be trying to drain their stamina.

                      More on this later.

                      Sent from my MI MAX 2 using Operation Sports mobile app
                      What about nerfing block regen and adding more long term block degeneration?

                      Focusing on “making” people gas is not how MMA works. The beauty of the sport is the inherent risk reward of managing your own stamina and being aggressive.

                      You practiced Muay Thai right? Isnt a common phase somethin like” the fighter with the most cardio wins” since in traditional thai you’re always trying to push the pace and break your opponent?

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                      • Solid_Altair
                        EA Game Changer
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 2043

                        #12
                        Re: Combo Spam

                        A slip counter at the end of a long combo is very dangerous, right?

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                        • bmlimo
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 1123

                          #13
                          Re: Combo Spam

                          Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                          A slip counter at the end of a long combo is very dangerous, right?
                          If you have time to, yes.

                          But should be also very dangerous stay a full round throwing heavy strikes... you should gas

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                          • bmlimo
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 1123

                            #14
                            Re: Combo Spam

                            Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                            What about nerfing block regen and adding more long term block degeneration?

                            Focusing on “making” people gas is not how MMA works. The beauty of the sport is the inherent risk reward of managing your own stamina and being aggressive.

                            You practiced Muay Thai right? Isnt a common phase somethin like” the fighter with the most cardio wins” since in traditional thai you’re always trying to push the pace and break your opponent?
                            This is the problem... why should I make him gas if he is already doing it himself!?

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                            • Solid_Altair
                              EA Game Changer
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 2043

                              #15
                              Re: Combo Spam

                              Originally posted by bmlimo
                              If you have time to, yes.

                              But should be also very dangerous stay a full round throwing heavy strikes... you should gas
                              There is always time.

                              It is.

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