Tito Ortiz

[Zeta Reticulan1]

Takedowns are not as viable as they should be, GnP is weak, and holding someone down to GnP doesn’t always work with online lag. These are 3 things
Tito was great at in his prime, so I’m okay with Tito having great striking to make up for this.

[Therebelyell626]

Quote: Originally Posted by AeroZeppelin27

You're the only person I've seen so far with that opinion, most everybody else realizes that these guys have comically over the top stats. It's not balanced, its not fair to the other legends in game whose stats incorporate both the good and the bad and most importantly its just straight up erroneous, Tito Ortiz, in his prime, wasn't a better calibre wrestler than GSP, DC or JBJ. Nobody is saying nerf them into the ground, but you can't honestly think these stats make sense They're like a homemade CAF made by someone with a bias for the fighter in question. Seriously, my Cro Cop CAF had lower stats than the official Cro Cop. I get they're supposed to be "fun" prime versions of themselves, but that doesn't excuse the fact they have way to high a stats. I'm a massive Cro Cop/Wand fan, huge. And even I'm looking at their stats going "Lolwut" I mean, Cro Cop, Mirko Cro Cop has the highest clinch throws in HW (94) tied with Cain Velasquez.

Please tell me you are kidding? You think Tito Ortiz is a better caliber wrestler than GSP or Daniel Cormier who is a freaking Olympian???? Tito never wrestled above a juco level !!!. You must be young. Unfortunately/fortunately I am old enough to remember Tito career quite vividly. I started watching UFC quite religiously around UFC 39. Granted, this is after Tito so called "prime" but through the grace of DVD I was able to go back and watch Tito career. Tito is by far one of the worse strikers in MMA. His footwork, execution, hand speed are all awkward and un-fundamentally sound. TIto fought nothing about tomato cans like Elvis sinosic early in his career. Granted he holds wins over wanderlei silva way back when people didn't really have a good strategy against wrestler/gnp style fighters, but a few years later when wanderlei hit his prime he would have ate Tito alive. He also hold a notable win against vitor belfort who has been fighting at middleweight the last decade.

So yes. Tito at his best beat tomato cans and underweight light heavyweights throughout his career.
Walk into any gym in America right now and talk to anyone that knows a thing about MMA and tell them you think Tito was a higher caliber wrestler than Cormier or GSP, they will laugh you out of the building youngin lol

[Therebelyell626]

I also just want to point out that right now Tito is way more lethal than the ice man who literally dominated Tito in every fight they had. I get that they are supposed to be fun to use. I also get that the online game plays different than against the AI. I play strictly offline.

So I guess I would prefer a game that is a bit more realistic. I am not really concerned with TIto being a viable option against the rest of his division, because in truth he really isn't. Even in his prime. Chuck where's a legacy kit. So in turn chuck is a prime version of chuck. Tito shouldn't be more lethal than chuck... period!

[Counter Punch]

Quote: Originally Posted by Therebelyell626

Please tell me you are kidding? You think Tito Ortiz is a better caliber wrestler than GSP or Daniel Cormier who is a freaking Olympian???? Tito never wrestled above a juco level !!!. You must be young. Unfortunately/fortunately I am old enough to remember Tito career quite vividly. I started watching UFC quite religiously around UFC 39. Granted, this is after Tito so called "prime" but through the grace of DVD I was able to go back and watch Tito career. Tito is by far one of the worse strikers in MMA. His footwork, execution, hand speed are all awkward and un-fundamentally sound. TIto fought nothing about tomato cans like Elvis sinosic early in his career. Granted he holds wins over wanderlei silva way back when people didn't really have a good strategy against wrestler/gnp style fighters, but a few years later when wanderlei hit his prime he would have ate Tito alive. He also hold a notable win against vitor belfort who has been fighting at middleweight the last decade. So yes. Tito at his best beat tomato cans and underweight light heavyweights throughout his career. Walk into any gym in America right now and talk to anyone that knows a thing about MMA and tell them you think Tito was a higher caliber wrestler than Cormier or GSP, they will laugh you out of the building youngin lol

He actually said the opposite...

[OPSPunk]

I have played and used Wandy, Kimbo and Tito. They are all waaaay better than they should. The problem is that the MMA has evolved and these guys are dinosaurs who never really evolved. Keep this in mind Tito's skills in his prime are inferior the Patrick Cummins now. So if you made it too real. NOBODY would use him. The same way NOBODY uses Matt Hughes. But if they were to be consistent. They should have made him similar in stats to Matt Hughes.

Wandy and Kimbo are just a different story. I love Kimbo but all his fights were all dreadful. He had no cardio to speak of (see the Dada 5000 fight). As far as his striking goes we should all keep in mind he got KO'd by Seth Petruzelli. Then go look at his fights and see how slow his strikes are. He should have great power, bad speed and bad cardio. No ground defense. Decent takedowns

Wandy is freaking Mike Tyson all his strikes are powerful (I am sorta ok with that). He has non stop Bisping level cardio. He keeps coming with no drop in his strike power. To me Wandy should feel like Paulo Costa.

[Good Grappler]

First off, great patch. All the grappling adjustments are superb. Wrestling is less useless in top level competition now.

But what’s up with Tito Ortiz? Am I missing something? I’m all for giving “legends” good stats to represent their prime selves.

But Tito Ortiz is a different story. This isn’t just a legend, who was added by popular demand, with stats good enough to make him “useable”. No... Tito isn’t just “useable”. He’s the best guy in the division by a longshot. He can absolutely decimate the second best guy in his division. His stats put Jon Jones and DC to shame.

Here’s a brief glance at Tito’s stats:
-99 top game
-99 takedowns (+3 perk, makes his TDs 102)
-99 grapple stamina
Wow, he has good wrestling. Don’t worry, I’ll just keep it standing and outstrike him. Oh wait...
-97 blocking
-94 head movement
-94 striking stamina
-92 chin strength

[aholbert32]

The devs are aware of the stats for Ortiz.

[UFCBlackbelt]

Yeah the devs wanted to have fun with these stats but it rreally came back to bite them in the a.