What to look for to hit Undeniable TDs, Single Leg Counters,

[AeroZeppelin27]

I didn't see this two explicitly mentioned so ill chuck them out there:

You can hit a diving low single/ankle pick on an opponent stiff-arm retreating within TD range.

And you can land an Auto-TD whilst both fighters are planted if you use headmovement to avoid a heavy shot like an Overhand or Hook (tested as Blaydes vs Hunt)

For example, if you sway a stationary overhand you can immediately time and auto-double off the sway. You have to be quick and I recall it occasionally and randomly not giving me the instand TD.

Basically, as to my understanding, you can time auto TDs on advancing strikes, and you can use sways to get them on planted strikes.

With the planted strikes however, I'm positive you need a slight stamina advantage, and the bigger than Advantage gets. The easier your insta-TD.


Oh. And finally, you'll always get an instant TD on a taunting opponent (I dunno if you even need the 90 TD off here)

Super handy for this cocky types who taunt in your face to bait counters.

[RomeroXVII]

Quote: Originally Posted by AeroZeppelin27

I didn't see this two explicitly mentioned so ill chuck them out there: You can hit a diving low single/ankle pick on an opponent stiff-arm retreating within TD range. And you can land an Auto-TD whilst both fighters are planted if you use headmovement to avoid a heavy shot like an Overhand or Hook (tested as Blaydes vs Hunt) For example, if you sway a stationary overhand you can immediately time and auto-double off the sway. You have to be quick and I recall it occasionally and randomly not giving me the instand TD. Basically, as to my understanding, you can time auto TDs on advancing strikes, and you can use sways to get them on planted strikes. With the planted strikes however, I'm positive you need a slight stamina advantage, and the bigger than Advantage gets. The easier your insta-TD. Oh. And finally, you'll always get an instant TD on a taunting opponent (I dunno if you even need the 90 TD off here) Super handy for this cocky types who taunt in your face to bait counters.

Awesome, I'll add this to the OP.

[AeroZeppelin27]

Quote: Originally Posted by RomeroXVII

Awesome, I'll add this to the OP.

Good post btw, nice and informative on a subject that isn't well explained in game. Good stuff!

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[RomeroXVII]

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[Papadoc60]

Decent players mostly don't use forward moving kicks or overhands and that's why I still believe these undeniable takedowns are still underpowered as hell though. I do land takedowns off of ducked stationary overhands though but they are never the undeniable kind. You're mainly going to have to deal with boxing and stationary kicks at a higher level in this game.

The main issue I encounter is with people coming forward with high level boxing and predenying clinch and takedowns, if you try to land these undeniable takedowns on people that are trying hard not to lose you'll generally get sprawled on ( or countered like the ways you listed, which are still way too easy to land ) and have to resort to striking due to stamina drain. Great guide, but I just wanted to clarify that they were still very underpowered in my opinion. We'll probably see everything shaken up with the next patch though, so we'll see where everything is at.

[Ultras123]

Quote: Originally Posted by Papadoc60

Decent players mostly don't use forward moving kicks or overhands and that's why I still believe these undeniable takedowns are still underpowered as hell though. I do land takedowns off of ducked stationary overhands though but they are never the undeniable kind. You're mainly going to have to deal with boxing and stationary kicks at a higher level in this game. The main issue I encounter is with people coming forward with high level boxing and predenying clinch and takedowns, if you try to land these undeniable takedowns on people that are trying hard not to lose you'll generally get sprawled on ( or countered like the ways you listed, which are still way too easy to land ) and have to resort to striking due to stamina drain. Great guide, but I just wanted to clarify that they were still very underpowered in my opinion. We'll probably see everything shaken up with the next patch though, so we'll see where everything is at.

100% right

[Boiler569]

Yes great guide but I hope you have to re-write it (or at least a ton to it) post-patch

Personally one of the biggest fixes to the Clinch & Takedown entries = NERF PRE-DENY

Mostly by locking you out if you choose the wrong option. You pre-deny clinch; but they go for TD? Undeniable TD.

You pre-deny TD; they go for clinch? Undeniable Clinch.

Just like how you get locked-out on the ground if you choose wrong.

I know I've written this a half dozen times the past few months but I honestly think that this alone will fix a lot of the issues with TDs & Clinch Entries being underpowered, though it won't be a silver bullet by itself