Anywhere I can find detailed explanaton of what the higher level core moves do?

[Phillyboi207]

What exactly does having higher level “core clinch moves” do? Same for “core ground moves” and the different takedowns.

For individual clinch positions it shows a modifier to lower stamina cost. But it says nothing for the stuff mentioned above.

Are they all just stamina modifiers or does it increase transition speed?

Thanks in advance

[Solid_Altair]

Re: Anywhere I can find detailed explanaton of what the higher level core moves do?

Good questions. I'm curious, too.

[MacGowan]

Re: Anywhere I can find detailed explanaton of what the higher level core moves do?

I read up on this and i do believe (please correct me) that they inluence the denial window on core moves that everyone has. So level 5 core ground moves, take say full guard to half guard:
he has a smaller denial window for you,
and you have a bigger denial window on him.

I have yet to check this out to confirm.

EDIT:

from reddit
"wolfgeist• Apr 26, 2016, 2:58 PM
More efficient strikes, larger denial windows, smaller transition windows"

"K3lladoor• Feb 21, 2017, 5:17 PM
Seriously? So do I.

Higher leveled 'Clinch Core Moves' doesn't add "more transitional moves" because there are no extra transitional moves to add outside the default moves given at Level 1 and the moves you need to apply a specific clinch card for. "Faster transitions" and "longer window for denial/reversal" are dependent on 'Clinch Grappling' stats - I've never heard or read that move cards affect them,"


Ok, now I'm confused too, would be nice if a dev could shine some light on this.

[AeroZeppelin27]

Re: Anywhere I can find detailed explanaton of what the higher level core moves do?

I *THINK* they work similar to move levels but apply to transitions and only affect stamina. Not damage.

At level 1, transitions have the default stamina usage.
At level 2,, transitions cost 2% less stamina

And so on and so forth.

Or atleast I'm damn sure that's how UFC 2 did it.

However I don't know the exact stamina reduction rates.

You don't get any extra transitions or anything, AFAIK they'll just cost less stamina at higher levels.

There may be a slight speed buff to transitions with each level too, but I've never tested it.

[Poulpy]

Re: Anywhere I can find detailed explanaton of what the higher level core moves do?

I really want to know too..

I do some stamina test with lvl3 core clinch and i dont see any difference.

But all i know, i do better with ground core lvl3 for some reason.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Anywhere I can find detailed explanaton of what the higher level core moves do?

I was hoping a GC could get an answer from a dev.

[MeowingForVengeance]

Re: Anywhere I can find detailed explanaton of what the higher level core moves do?

The move list previews show transitions, so I always assumed they added more transitions. But then transitions have their own separate category with level tiers, so... Puzzling.

[tomitomitomi]

Re: Anywhere I can find detailed explanaton of what the higher level core moves do?

The game in general could do a much better job at explaining things. Ground game is nigh impossible to learn without external sources (Fakes, momentum etc). A few weeks ago there was confusion about the judging criteria. This thread is another example of things that are not explained well enough.

All I know is that some levels give you new transitions. UFC 3 at least lets you see which ones (whereas I don't think UFC 2 did) but it could still be better. The strike combo levels for instance should differentiate which level unlocks which combos. If you pick a character with level 5 boxing combos you just get this massive list of combos. Instead it should group them in all 5 levels so you can use someone like Conor to practice boxing combos for different levels (and different fighters) more efficiently at once.

[Papadoc60]

Re: Anywhere I can find detailed explanaton of what the higher level core moves do?

My buddy tested this and determined that there is a small improvement per core move level for clinch and ground when considering denial windows and transition speed.

It was Advaita_X, and he's by far one of the most high level players on both PS4 and X box so I entirely trust his opinion and have noticed this difference myself as well.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Anywhere I can find detailed explanaton of what the higher level core moves do?

My buddy tested this and determined that there is a small improvement per core move level for clinch and ground when considering denial windows and transition speed.

It was Advaita_X, and he's by far one of the most high level players on both PS4 and X box so I entirely trust his opinion and have noticed this difference myself as well.

That’s cool to know

I wish we could find the exact amount it changes. Like is it 5% added to the rating.

And does this also apply to TDs?

[Boiler569]

Re: Anywhere I can find detailed explanaton of what the higher level core moves do?

My buddy tested this and determined that there is a small improvement per core move level for clinch and ground when considering denial windows and transition speed.

It was Advaita_X, and he's by far one of the most high level players on both PS4 and X box so I entirely trust his opinion and have noticed this difference myself as well.

Yea Advaita is legit --- I went up against his Tim Means in ranked hahaha he was practicing the new single collar I could tell --- I survived and even got a KD against Advaita but he got the pretty easy 29-28 decision over me, as Tim Means, so yea he's pretty good and he'd be the type of guy to lab this I bet lol

[UFCBlackbelt]

Re: Anywhere I can find detailed explanaton of what the higher level core moves do?

Yea Advaita is legit --- I went up against his Tim Means in ranked hahaha he was practicing the new single collar I could tell --- I survived and even got a KD against Advaita but he got the pretty easy 29-28 decision over me, as Tim Means, so yea he's pretty good and he'd be the type of guy to lab this I bet lol

i dont know if its advaita or someone else, but there is one guy who I swear can deny pretty much anything. It's an effing nightmare.

[Papadoc60]

Re: Anywhere I can find detailed explanaton of what the higher level core moves do?

i dont know if its advaita or someone else, but there is one guy who I swear can deny pretty much anything. It's an effing nightmare.

Yup that's him. His side control is the best on ps4 and xbox easily